Matt Madia wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Rob Judd <haiqu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Matt Madia wrote: Matt, You will probably get along with people better when you cease treating them like idiots. That comment can also be applied to anevilyak since I've also had the above rant once today. (see #3747) I could give you a longwinded pushbutton response about my involvement with BeOS starting in 1993, but I really can't be bothered. And in fact I really have nothing to prove here. My opinion is just my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Let's just focus on getting Haiku R1 out, and leave the advanced features to the Glass Elevator discussion group.When *anyone* claims that Haiku *is* BeOS, they need to be corrected. Every time that in-correct statement is conveyed, it is doing a dis-service to Haiku. It puts Haiku in a negative light as "*just* a version of BeOS" in they eyes of people outside of the community. In truth, Haiku is already much, much more than BeOS ever was.
Matt, take off the rose coloured glasses for a moment.Right now any comparison with BeOS leaves Haiku in a better light. It *aspires* to be as good, and hasn't gotten there yet. There are major issues in interfaces, storage, media ... remember that BeOS was known as the closest thing to a real-time operating system you could get without going to embedded systems, and is STILL used in many live video edit suites. Without that performance, Haiku is an also-ran look-alike without a valid market.
The above is not meant to discourage the efforts of the many talented programmers here who have spent years to get this far. If only I had been born independently wealthy I should have enjoyed doing more along those lines myself, but making a living does get in the way.
However, since you seem to have gone off on a tangent to my original intention, rest assured that I was using the term "BeOS" in my earlier reply as a generic term for "a BeOS-like operating system" and not in any way implying that Haiku *is* BeOS. I also used "Unix" in the same way, implying but not stating "and also SunOS, Linux, BSD, etc, etc"
I think you also have to consider that those who will report in the media on the eventual release of Haiku R1 will inevitably make the comparison in painful detail, and concentrate on trivial differences rather than any functional improvements. Haiku R2 will be the point at which you can rightly claim an independent operating system.
Sorry, I'm not sure where you're going with that comment. If you're trying to imply that Be, Inc. weren't responsive to the needs of software vendors, maybe so. Then again they worked to specific release target dates and had to make a profit doing it.Anyone who deals with external projects and tries to push for Haiku-specific patches will more than likely agree with this.
Rob
