> only 4mb ram (expandable to 36 or something ) are probably not > enough ;) ) There were some BeBoxes that shipped with 8 MB. Considering that much of the physical RAM on a virtual memory system is taken up by the page tables, I don't think it would be hard at all to get Haiku to run on a 4 MB machine, if you didn't use VM. Also a company I worked for back in the late '80s had two Sun workstations that each had only 4 MB or RAM. That was back in the days when memory was very precious. Everyone in the whole company could log in to just one of those machines, and it would work just fine. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdcrawford at gmail dot com GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks http://www.goingware.com/tips/