On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > Am 29.05.2014 05:26, schrieb Ari Haviv: > >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Urias McCullough <umccullough@xxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:umccullough@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM, SMC.Collins >> <smc.collins@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smc.collins@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> > Rant on/ >> > This is just getting fucking rediculous. Haiku needs to release >> and it needs >> > to do it literally like yesterday. Secondly, this release process >> is just >> ... >> > Rant Off/ >> >> I'm not angry but I hope everyone understands that this whole release >> issue is making it harder to bring in new developers and contributors, >> thus putting a bigger burden on the existing ones. >> > > I keep reading this argument. Haiku has made four releases in the past. Is > there any evidence that making these releases has brought in fresh > developer blood? > I know I'm not a haiku OS developer, so sorry to intrude on your mailing list, but I think in general this argument is true and there is evidence for it... for one thing I started porting applications to haiku following the alpha 3 release; having followed the project for a long while the alpha made me have a go at booting it and think "hey, this is finally getting to the point where its worth me porting the stuff I need to get work done and trying to use it day to day". You find more people in IRC trying to build things and ports popping up on the forum after a release. I've also seen developers arriving and saying they were trying to get something to build but xxx isn't working, being told they need to use a nightly, and deciding not to bother because they only want to develop for a "proper" release with some longevity. I don't actually disagree with anything else you've said BTW, but thought I'd drop in to mention this. Ed (aka munchausen).