On 2011-06-10 at 19:00:53 [+0200], André Braga <meianoite@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (And in my trolling opinion, as far as creating a chasm between the user > and the metal goes, Java is the worst offender. Again in my trolling > opinion, the contribution Java brought to Computing was that so many > techniques had to be invented to solve all the problems that Java created, > but now those techniques can be put to much better use elsewhere.) I use Java in embedded systems in my daily work, without underlying operating system, and it gets good results when done right. Like anything else. Look at www.is2t.com if you want to know more on that. For years everything was written in assembly language, and some programs where a big mess of spaghetti code, others were not. No matter how many features your language offers, it can be used in all kind of wrong ways. -- Adrien.