[haiku-development] Re: Default Font Choice In Haiku should likely be changed
- From: Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:03:01 +0200
Hi,
Am 18.09.2011 06:02, schrieb Sean Collins:
As one of my many personal studys on GUI and applications regarding the
Haiku Os. I have reached a pretty substantial conclusion after much
testing and even after subjecting windows users to Haiku. The Default
fonts are not cutting it for readability or appearance. I am sure this
comment is going to grate somebody, but I figured better to just come
out and say it.
I would be really interested in some actual arguments, why the Dejavu
fonts don't "cut it" for readability and appearance. I am sure that at
least for readability, there must be some real arguments to back this
up. Personally, I find Dejavu to be one of the best readable fonts,
since it has a very clean and homogenous appearance.
I did do some digging through the mailing list and I found plenty of
topics about font rendering, but none specifically on the font selection
itself. I had been digging through optional packages sometime ago and I
found both the droid and the Wye fonts, so I tested with those. anyhow.
Most people seemed to prefer the droid font over the current default, I
myself also prefer them over the current defaults. Between the issues
with font hinting, font rendering etc not to mentioned any applicable
patents that may or may not be lingering, changing the default font
would seem to be a ideal situation to resolve the look issue of the
current default. Plus the droid fonts just look more professional.
I remember that there was a thread about the Droid fonts, but on one
hand you say there was no arguing about the actual selection of the
default font, yet you say most people prefer the Droid fonts.
Personally, I think the Droid fonts are pretty, but I wonder whether
they are a good candidate to replace Dejavu, since they are so heavily
associated with Android. Dejavu has been in use for years by open
projects, they are not particularily associated with any one
specifically, that I am aware of. (And that by the way, is a pretty
strong argument against your claim that Dejavu is not well readable.)
I guess this also goes hand in hand with another comment I made in a
different thread, if there is a pitch to be made to attract developers,
users, academic study etc , expect to encounter resistance from all
sides and any nitpick a user can find, a user will find. Everything from
the default color scheme to the fonts, to the way the window and file
browsing experience is. Humans will nit pick, and those who are what
call be termed enthusiasts about Operating System will be even more
critical more often then not.
I hope you realize that this argument is not in favor of your own
position. The font selection is a matter of taste, so no matter what
font we chose as the default, people will always nitpick, no?
So I figured I'd fire the opening shot.
If there was to be a change to the default font
A. which fonts would be worth including in any potential survey to
determine is a change is warranted , which I doubt theres any real
argument over.
and
b. what would be the best method to determine which font should be the
default as well as any other fonts that should be included image size
permitting.
I am not at all against changing the default font. But first I would
really love to hear some actual arguments why Dejavu is not readable,
not professional and doesn't cut in in appearance.
Best regards,
-Stephan
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