[haiku-commits] Re: r40588 - haiku/trunk/src/apps/showimage

  • From: "Stephan Assmus" <superstippi@xxxxxx>
  • To: haiku-commits@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:21:23 +0100


Von: Clemens <clemens.zeidler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> whats your general thought about toolbars? For me toolbar and menubar are 
> clashing a bit. They basically do the same but use twice as much space.  
> For example, tracker is very space efficient with just a menu. No doubt,  
> toolbars are easy to use and give a quick access to the core functions but
> are not able to show all the option accessible in a large menu.
> Since there is no clear toolbar concept in haiku or R5 we might thought  
> about it how to do it in the best way. Think a ribbon like approach would 
> not be an option since it use lot more space and makes things quite  
> complicated. Maybe a combination of menu- and toolbar would be a solution?
> e.g. a dropdown menu at the left of the bar containing the complete menu; 
> right of this dropdown menu could be the icon toolbar located...
> In case of showimage I would prefer to show as much as possible of the  
> image. Especially some linux viewer are very bad at this point.

In general, I'd like to get away from this "Ok, now what?" feeling that is easy 
to get as a first impression when opening some Haiku apps. Tool bar/menu 
bar/whatever, there are always advantages and disadvantages. A tool bar can 
give quick access to often used features and they help first time users see 
their options. I disagree that ShowImage needs to use as much space as possible 
for the image. That's what the full screen mode is for. Since there are 
definitely users such as yourself who prefer no tool bar, I would make it 
optional. I.e. show the tool bar by default, and have the option to hide it. In 
the full screen mode, I would like to show the tool bar (possibly with slightly 
different content) upon mouse movement, just like MediaPlayer does. At the 
moment, I am not really considering inventing something new that is both menu 
bar and tool bar at the same time. That will just give problems later on and I 
am striving for a consistent user interface across as much apps as 
 possible, so I am not thinking in a direction that would require changing many 
apps at once in a radical way.

Best regards,

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