[haiku-commits] Re: r39744 - haiku/trunk/src/kits/tracker

  • From: Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>
  • To: haiku-commits@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:06:12 +0100


Am Montag, den 06.12.2010, 09:14 +0100 schrieb Adrien Destugues:
> Le 06/12/2010 08:58, Stephan Aßmus a écrit :
> > Why is this a big deal?! Why does this justify going into a discussion,
> > when nobody has actually had any great vision how the function keys
> > could be used in Haiku? Don't get me wrong, I don't want a card blanche
> > to add whatever I like to Haiku, but in this instance, I feel there
> > haven't been any real arguments besides we don't have to be like
> > everyone else, users should be willing to relearn... yes, but not with
> > little stuff like this. We can damn well consider ways to make the life
> > of users easier who won't be using Haiku exclusively.
> So low discoverability also make users puzzled. If someone mistakenly 
> press f2 and gets a file renamed, he can't know what happenned.
> Also, it makes the key already used and if we want to use it for 
> something else someday (I somehow think it's used as 'new' somewhere, 
> but apparently it's not in windows XP... where did I get that idea ?) ;
> the key is already used up and some people will complain that the 
> meaning changed.
> "If a bug remains in your software for more than 3 month, then people will :
> a) Find a way around it and
> b) Find a 'clever' way to use it.
> So it's now a feature and you can't fix it".

I get your point. In the context that I've added the shortcut exactly
because a lot of people *already* expect F2 to have this meaning, I
don't see how matters became any worse.

> I'm not against using f2 as rename per se, but that should be part of a 
> wider thinking on how to use the function keys as a whole.

You are the third or fourth to say this, yet nobody actually had any
vision for the function keys in Haiku. Until someone comes up with a
clever way of putting them to use, and it would actually prevent using
F2 as alternative rename shortcut in Tracker, the situation has only
gotten better in the meantime. That's because if we had to remove the
shortcut again, it would be no worse than not offering it in the first
place -- i.e. something you /expect/ to work does not. Doesn't matter
much why you expect it to work (because it did before, or because you
are used to it from elsewhere).

Best regards,

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