Hello all, In case you have not seen it Nicholas sent an email to the haiku mailing list with the following URL: http://blachford.info/computer/haiku/GUI/ Though the 3rd image isn't loading for some of us (I can't see it in BeZilla nor ShowImage) I think in general we get the idea. I personally like this sort of initiative as I think for many of us it is easiest to communicate these ideas visually. Now for my comments: http://blachford.info/computer/haiku/GUI/2_with_curves.png I have had thoughts of trying to add curves to the window tabs as an experiment, and this is definitely in the direction I was thinking, though I think a slightly bigger radius would be better. I also suspect the Haiku drawing engine might do a better job on the anti-aliasing of those curves than Photoshop (especially with subpixel rendering.) I don't really like the curves on the other parts of the window though. I think a square cornered window with curved tabs is a nice evolution from the current interface. I do like the curve on the bottom left of the Deskbar and I think that would be nice to implement. http://blachford.info/computer/haiku/GUI/3_with_shadows.png As I said this one isn't loading, but I assume it is essentially the fourth image minus the textures. Commenting on the shadows in the fourth image: I think they are too big and diffused and in addition they imply a light source which is completely different than that used for the Haiku icons. I think the most logical approach for the shadows is to mostly assume the lighting used for the icons, which is detailed in the icon guidelines: http://factory.haiku-os.org/documentation/icon_guidelines/ This would mean a sharp horizontal shadow going out to the right of the windows and maybe a soft shadow toward the bottom and left from the ambient light sort. http://blachford.info/computer/haiku/GUI/4_with_textures.png I just plain don't like the textures, at least this version. It makes the whole GUI look blurry. Obviously the Photoshopping is imperfect but I'm not sure I would like the texturing any more if it was just on the panel backgrounds (which is what I assume it would normally be.) This definitely is getting into the gratuitous non-functional area that I don't like. -- Regards, Ryan