[haiku-bugs] Re: [Haiku] #6983: cleanup printer prefrences / UI ehnacements.

  • From: "laplace" <trac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:30:59 -0000

#6983: cleanup printer prefrences / UI ehnacements.
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  Reporter:  stargatefan       |        Owner:  laplace
      Type:  enhancement       |       Status:  new
  Priority:  normal            |    Milestone:  R1
 Component:  Drivers/Printers  |      Version:  R1/alpha2
Resolution:                    |     Keywords:
Blocked By:                    |  Has a Patch:  0
  Platform:  All               |     Blocking:
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Comment (by laplace):

 Replying to [comment:9 stargatefan]:
 > Replying to [comment:8 laplace]:
 > >
 > > I don't know what you're talking about? I wrote the PCL5, PCL6 and
 PostScript driver from scratch using libprint! Admitted, I don't know
 where libprint originates from.
 >
 >
 >    hadn't browsed the source. I can't use any of those drivers. no HP
 printers.

 Why did you then claim that they were ports and not native?

 > >
 > >
 > > For printing BeOS is not a good example, as the Haiku printing system
 is identical to BeOS. With the exception that it allows you to select the
 printer before the page or job setup. BTW that dialog could be disabled.
 > >
 >
 >    Most people like to be able to actively select the print preview when
 they are working on stuff that needsa print preview, pictures, graphics
 etc.
 >
 > >
 > > Agreed. Please keep in mind that the goal for Haiku R1 is/was to be
 feature complete with BeOS R5. And for the Haiku printing system that is
 already achieved (BTW for a long time already). So any improvements we are
 talking here will likely be implemented post R1.
 > >
 >
 >    this is one time where being the same is a bad thing. its a pain to
 print anything as you have to click through multiple windows to get
 anything to print.
 >
 > > Changing the contents of existing dialogs is what can be done pre R1.
 Actually I thought you had that in mind.
 > >
 >
 >    why not fix the mess thats there ?

 As I told you the "mess" that's there is because of historical
 reasons.[[br]]
 Why not fix it? That's simple because it needs developers to actually
 implement the stuff. I don't see anyone including myself who is going to
 do that! All claims, requests for change are just hot air, until someone
 implements them. That's how open source works driven by spare time
 developers.

 > BEOS did alot of stuff right, the printing dialogs though. they are
 horriable. to many windows, to many options spread all about the place.
 >
 > > >
 > >
 > > These are all speculations. When PCL6 was implemented I know of a
 user, IIRC who was more satisfied with the Haiku driver than the Linux
 solutions at that time. Again without investigation there is no point in
 arguing any further.
 > >
 >
 >   Its not hard to be better then linux at stuff. the question is can
 haiku be as good as other OS's out there.

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