Axel Dörfler wrote: >>>I don't see this connection - sure the update code needs a basic >>>window >>>manager, but it could be worked on with what is there for weeks >>>AFAICT. >> >> Yes, the basics of the window manager which handle the update >>region >>are in place for weeks. I was referring to the fact I am indirectly >>working >>at the update code by finishing the window manager. > > I think I see your point. A bit late as this is the second time I say this. :-) >>>Anyway, I am not the one to decide what you do and what not; I just >>>wanted to point out that your attitude may hurt development, >> >> For the near future I had 3 tasks, 1) finish window manager, 2) >>finish >>update code issues, 3) resume work at BWindow/BView. >> What would've you expect if one comes and says, I'll do 2), and you >>know >>in 2 weeks time you would've started work at it? > > That depends on the amount of preparation and planning I invested in > 2). See. That's exactly my point. I already said after I was done with the clipping code I got the update code to work (as you know, it does not work great, but it worked for what we needed at that moment). Then I realized that for making it work just right I had to have a new, more clean and performant, window manager (as you have noticed it doesn't have to be completed for the update code to work) so I went into writing it. Now, when I'm done I would like to continue from where I have left. That is what I wanted but, you don't always get what you want... :-) > If I'd thought there was quite a bit of it, and another developer > wanted to work on 2), I would try to convince him that it would be > substantial more work for him than for me. Have I finally done that? > Otherwise, I would start working on 3) :-) Agree. >>>and is in general not very helpful. >> >> I am VERY surprised you say that! Did I not helped Stephan by >>explaining >>him app_server internals, where the problems are? Have I not >>responded to those >>emails in which is was looking for help? > > The way you understood this, you can indeed be very surprised. I meant > that strictly restricted to the matter (not wanting to give away a task > although it might be a good decision to do so). I still don't think it is a good decision. :-) >>>And more importantly, BHandler and BLooper still need some work. >> >> Like? > > I've added some ToDo items, and also the recent problems found in > BLooper/BWindow, etc. For example, you will get plenty of > B_MESSAGE_NOT_UNDERSTOOD messages, which is not the case in BeOS (and I > just recently fixed an endless loop regarding those). I'll see what I can do. bye, Adi.