well Cathie it's good to hear that your cold has gone, it does say at the end of your e-mail that no virus was found in this message so maybe guide has got your cold , could this be the reason for all of the trouble that some of you are having in downloading the latest version, off to watch the sport and eat my dinner, Vanessa the Saints reporter , here's hoping for a win in the rugby and footie, x x from us all