HI Jim oh just let me laugh for few minutes first with your sense of humour here where yu said board shoved in front of yur nose and you ended up with white nose hahahahahahaha sorry needed to do that now to the serious stuff here now. Oh my god you went through hell too oh why oh why are we blind people all so bloody different all it is our sight no sight Our brains still there so what is wrong with these people ridiculous I found they show off in gangs but when on their own and in front of their parents the biggest cowards on earth they suddenly go all numb and dumb can't handle being pulled up alone not brave enough you see god always punishes them later on life believe me i know what I am talking about here Clare yes spot on ther you get it form adults too definately hundred per cent there right i had some one in past not mentioning names used to call me behind my back to their other friends even on tapes too even repaet to them what i am telling them I always find out in the end so got rid of them for good now can't trust anybody nowdays yes I fully agree with you there even blind people can be like that too good on you clare for speaking openely great job there vicious circle this is what I like on this chat group We all open up to one and other and find out more about one and other brilliant just brilliant Love Carol xxxx