[gptalk] GPO Archive Question

From: jfvanmeter@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:47:00 +0000

Good Morning everyone, I currently have AGPM installed in a Windows 2003. 

I read in a KB that it's not possible to migrate a Win2k3 AGPM GPO Arvhive to 
Vista or Windows 2008, is that correct?  Would it be possible to upgrade the OS 
from WIn2k3 to Win2k8, would that allow me to keep my current GPO Archive and 
not lose my historical data?

If I implement RSAT on Vista or GPMC on Windows server 2008 and use one or the 
other to manage group policy, so I can use the GPPs, does anyone have a prefers 
on which to use RSAT on Vista or GPMC on Win2k8?

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Andrew-
> 
> The quickest and easiest way to make sure that the CSEs are installed is to
> go into the registry on one of those clients under
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions.
> Browse the GUID-named keys. If GPP is successfully installed, you should see
> the 2nd GUId-named key having something like "Group Policy Environment" as
> its default value and the DLLName value being "gpprefcl.dll". If you see
> entries with that DLLL name in the list, then it made it successfully to the
> workstation.
> 
>  
> 
> You don't have to copy any templates anywhere to get GP Preferences working.
> All you need to do is fire up GPMC on that Vista, SP1 system, create a new
> GPO just as you always would, edit it, and you should see a Preferences
> container under each of Computer and User Configuration. In the simplest
> case ,you can target that GPO as you normally would-but you just have more
> options for doing so in there. 
> 
>  
> 
> Hope that helps get you started. Let us know if you have any other
> questions, since I'm sure it will benefit a lot of folks on the list as
> well.
> 
>  
> 
> Darren
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Andrew McHale
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:12 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Setting up GPP in a 2003 Environment
> 
>  
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> I'm trying to introduce GPP's into my 2003 network and have come across some
> really basic questions which I can't seem to find answers to. I have read
> Jamie's GPP run down (including most of the links) and still couldn't work
> it out (//www.freelists.org/archives/gptalk/06-2008/msg00111.html).
> 
>  
> 
> Our network is made up of 6 Server 2003 SP2 machines and roughly 25 XP SP3
> machines. There is a single Vista Ultimate SP1 machine running RSAT (my
> machine).
> 
>  
> 
> I have used WSUS to deploy the client side extensions too all machines
> (including servers).
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a simple guide to introducing GPP's to a 2003 environment? It'll
> probably save me asking a lot of stupid questions here. So far today I've
> spent 4 hours reading about GPP and all its seemed to tell me is the theory
> behind it or how to configure a GPP GPO, not how to get your 2003 network to
> the state where it is ready for these new GPO's.
> 
>  
> 
> An example of one of my stupid questions is: How can I locally check that
> the CSE's are installed? I've looked in Add/Remove Programs (with updates
> ticked) and Windows Features but can't see it. WSUS says its installed but
> I'd like to manually check.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, I seem to remember someone mentioning previously that I need to copy
> some templates or something from my Vista machine to a 2003 DC in order for
> the new GPP GPO's to work. Is my memory correct and if so, what and where?
> 
>  
> 
> Many thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Andrew
> 
>  
>

--- Begin Message ---

From: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>

To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:09:53 +0000

Andrew-

The quickest and easiest way to make sure that the CSEs are installed is to go into the registry on one of those clients under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions. Browse the GUID-named keys. If GPP is successfully installed, you should see the 2^nd GUId-named key having something like “Group Policy Environment” as its default value and the DLLName value being “gpprefcl.dll”. If you see entries with that DLLL name in the list, then it made it successfully to the workstation.

You don’t have to copy any templates anywhere to get GP Preferences working. All you need to do is fire up GPMC on that Vista, SP1 system, create a new GPO just as you always would, edit it, and you should see a Preferences container under each of Computer and User Configuration. In the simplest case ,you can target that GPO as you normally would—but you just have more options for doing so in there.

Hope that helps get you started. Let us know if you have any other questions, since I’m sure it will benefit a lot of folks on the list as well.

Darren

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew McHale
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:12 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Setting up GPP in a 2003 Environment

Hi all,

I’m trying to introduce GPP’s into my 2003 network and have come across some really basic questions which I can't seem to find answers to. I have read Jamie’s GPP run down (including most of the links) and still couldn’t work it out (//www.freelists.org/archives/gptalk/06-2008/msg00111.html).

Our network is made up of 6 Server 2003 SP2 machines and roughly 25 XP SP3 machines. There is a single Vista Ultimate SP1 machine running RSAT (my machine).

I have used WSUS to deploy the client side extensions too all machines (including servers).

Is there a simple guide to introducing GPP’s to a 2003 environment? It’ll probably save me asking a lot of stupid questions here. So far today I’ve spent 4 hours reading about GPP and all its seemed to tell me is the theory behind it or how to configure a GPP GPO, not how to get your 2003 network to the state where it is ready for these new GPO’s.

An example of one of my stupid questions is: How can I locally check that the CSE’s are installed? I’ve looked in Add/Remove Programs (with updates ticked) and Windows Features but can't see it. WSUS says its installed but I’d like to manually check.

Also, I seem to remember someone mentioning previously that I need to copy some templates or something from my Vista machine to a 2003 DC in order for the new GPP GPO’s to work. Is my memory correct and if so, what and where?

Many thanks

Andrew

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