Hi Darren, Ah Ha. Found it. The link you gave was actually to the ADMX file which doesn't contain it. Alan Cuthbertson _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, 29 August 2008 2:15 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPMC logging Alan- That should be in there. At least, I'm looking at my local copy of the ADM and it has the following: POLICY !!USERENV EXPLAIN !!USERENV_HELP KEYNAME "Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" PART !!USERENVMODE DROPDOWNLIST VALUENAME "UserEnvDebugLevel" ITEMLIST NAME !!NormalLogging VALUE NUMERIC 65537 NAME !!VerboseLogging VALUE NUMERIC 65538 NAMe !!SuperLogging VALUE NUMERiC 196610 NAME !!NoneLogging VALUE NUMERIC 0 I have to say that on Vista, I still prefer the Operational Logs, but not enough folks have deployed Vista for it to be a critical mass way of troubleshooting GP, so we are stuck with the ugly trace logs for the forseeable future. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan & Margaret Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:46 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPMC logging Hi Darren, That's rather useful! Any reason for not including SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon UserEnvDebugLevel = 65538. It still seems to still work on Vista and provide more info than is provided in the Event logging. Perhaps there is an option to increase the amount of info in Event logging? Alan Cuthbertson _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, 29 August 2008 12:05 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPMC logging Krisani- Typically you need read permissions on a GPO to back it up. I'm not sure GPMC logging will give you any more detail here but check out my gpolog.adm file-it contains all of the various logging options that GP provides and is available at www.gpoguy.com/gpolog.htm Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of krisani p Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:59 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] GPMC logging Hello, When I try to copy or backup a GPO using GPMC on Vista, I am getting the error "Access is denied". How do I enable GPMC logging so that I can get more details about this. Thanks krisani