It is and I can't wait to have mine!----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps inside?
In our lab we detect a lot of reflections and error resulting from these reflections (flat surfaces etc). Depends on the materials involved. where I am for example there are raised floors and lots of metal. Wooden or natural coverings will have drastically different effects but that's probably outside the scope of this thread. The more clear your view to the sky the better. Michael has spoken clearly in the past on multipath for example and the effects there. Just remember this is all radio at it's core. Anything you learned about radio signals in your sixth grade science class (back when you got a great education from the public schools, pointing at certain members of this list) applies here. So when you block a signal you render it less effective in any form. Both the Holux and US-Globalsat sites have good information about the basics of GPS which apply to all tools including Sindero. The Government also maintains both highly technical and consumer oriented information. It's an amazing technology!----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina B." <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps inside?Thanks Alex that makes sense. for anyone who has been able to get a signal indoors, how did it do could use really use it as affectively as you can outside. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Parks" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps inside?Gps relies on satellites, whose signals are blocked by buildings. You may be able to pick up a signal indoors but there is no way you will be able to navigate a building with it. A jump drive would work but I recommend a cf or sd card which can be left in the unit more easily and does not stick out. The maps come on an 8gb card, but you can get anywhere from a 1gb to 16gb. What size you get depends on how many maps you will need at a time and which maps they are--the Maine maps are much smaller than the California maps.Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina B." <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:24:06 -0700 Subject: [gps-talkusers] gps inside?Hi. Does the braille note gps work indoors yet or is that beingplanned?Also, if I get a jump drive for my m-power , can I save the mapsfor the USon to that drive or what kind of device are they on like a cfcard or an sdcard? I know you can get those little drives with several gigshave a friendwho just got a 3 or 4 gig one so that is what made me wonder andif I can,what gig should I go with just to be sure there is enough space? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPSHi. On the Voice Sense I put in Sendero as the virtual positionand theLighthouse as the destination. It showed that the destinationwas 64.37miles southwest from Sendero.The Voice Sense plays progress tones, but I don't think they arethreeseconds apart. I created the route using two slightly methods.The firstwas using the micro hard drive CF card with the whole West ofthe USloaded. The second test was with only the California mapsloaded in theflashdisk of the Voice Sense. In both cases the result was thesame.Creating a vehicle route took 57 beeps. The route had 364waypoints. To behonest, this is longer than what I would have thought. At leastwhen I'vecreated many routes in Denver, Chicago, and Fort Wayne, 60 or somileroutes do not seem to take as long, but I don't know if POIs ormap areashave something to do with this.So, there is the Voice Sense side of things.Kevin Chao said the following on 12/13/2007 1:14 PM:If we wwant to figure this out we can run a test. Let's say wejust havethe maps for California loaded and create a route from SenderoGroup tothe LightHouse and see what the difference in speed is. Raul, I am not sure if there is someprogresstone on the Sense Nav. On the Sendero GPS, there is a swooshthat occursevery 3 seconds to indicate some progress. Starting: Sendero Group 11188 Maple Lane Davis, CA Ending: LightHouse 214 Van ness Ave San Francisco, CA Could someone perform theroutecalculation on the BrailleNote and someone on the VoiceSense? Wethen cancompare notes. It might be faster on the VoiceSense as Alexsuggested asthere is more processing power and RAM on the VoiceSense. Thereare manyvariables that aren't accounted for, but this is just a general comparison. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy W Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:58 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPSIsn't the chip in the Braille Sense faster? Maybe someone fromsenderocould tell us if route calculation is noticeably faster.Judy-----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Raul A.GallegosSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:47 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPSHello Eric. I'd be happy to comment on the Voice Sense side ofthingsalthough I'm not sure how much my comments will mean since I'veonlyused the Voice Sense and not the Braille note. The things i cancommenton are mainly things which I've seen from reading other user experiences, but none from me personally.Eric Brinkman said the following on 12/13/2007 11:26 AM:Hi,I am curious whether anyone who has used both the BrailleNoteGPS andthe Voice Sense GPS can comment on any differences between thetwo.Thanks in advance.Eric-- Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608 WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com-- Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608 WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com