[gps-talkusers] e: Re: Maps Sendero supports

  • From: jeremy gilbreth <jermy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:40:48 -0500

Hello! Would this be why there are a lot of unnamed streets? It wasn't like this until 4.0. Later.


----- Original Message -----
From: Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:58:44 -0800
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps Sendero supports

Hello currently Sendero only has maps from TeleAtlas for most
countries except Australia where we get the maps from Humanware
and
NavTec as TeleAtlas doesn't have maps yet for that country.

Yes it would be cost prohibitive to offer both TeleAtlas and
NavTec
maps since there is not only a per map royalty fee that Sendero
has
to pay but also an annual fee which is quite expensive just to
have
the right to use their maps.

TeleAtlas is moving from separate map formats between their UK
map
database and their North American map database, and the GPS 4.0,
2007.1 maps you all currently have is their first offering of
this
new merged data format.  It had some problems which they are
correcting, and should be addressed with their 2008 maps next
year. We have brought to their attention a number of
discrepancies
and you may also want to do the same for your local maps if they
are in error.

I am sure the data will get better, we just need to be patient.
I
can only imagine larger companies which use the TeleAtlas maps
are
also crying bloody murder over the apparent step backwards in
data
accuracy, but TeleAtlas has assured us they are working to
correct
the issues and most of the issues we have brought to their
attention
have already been addressed.

Thank you
Charles.


At 11:06 AM 12/2/2007, you wrote:
Hello Charles.
Am I right to assume that it would be cost-prohibitive for
Sendero
to offer Navtec as a map choice for the U.S.? Here in Kalamazoo,
MI,
it seems that the Teleatlas maps are quite a bit off (we're
talking
several blocks) in several locations, and this is one of the main
reasons that I haven't been able to justify purchasing Sendero
GPS
yet, unfortunately.

Thanks.
J.J.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre"
<charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps Sendero supports


Hello Yusuf,

TeleAtlas does not yet support these countries.  Even if they did
then we would have to get a filter to convert their proprietary
GDF
map format into deCartas Richmap format.  Those filters will only
be created 1. once a the map exists and 2. once commercial
demand
for those countries merit deCarta spending the 6+ months
development time to create the filter, and then Sendero is last
on
the list to then convert the deCarta's Maps into our own.

So as you can see this is a very long and drawn out process
driven
by commercial demand, we are a drop in the bucket so until it
becomes popular outside the blindness market will we see these
maps
for our market.

As far as sharing maps between devices this is not possible or
legal. Maps are purchased for a specific device as outlined in
the
licensing agreement between the map companies (ie.  teleAtlas or
Navtec) and the third party venders.

Charles.



At 01:37 AM 12/2/2007, you wrote:
Charles, I don't know if this would be feasible but... Would it
be
possible to design some software that would be able to import
maps
to any GPS device no matter which product the maps were
originally designed?

Looking at your list of supported countries I noticed that there
weren't any maps for large countries like India, South Africa,
China or Turkey, I'm presuming this is because the maps Sendero
use aren't available for those places.  But, does that mean that
there aren't any maps made by anyone for those places?

So I'm wondering if it would be possible to write software that
would enable Sindero to import particular maps from different
companies for specific users.

Of course the benefit of this would be that what Sindero could do
everybody else could do as well. I'm thinking of the Trekker
here
as thats the product I use.

Maybe the expense of purchasing a licence to reproduce 1 map
would
be prohibitive and I guess it would be quite challenging to do
the
conversions from 1 map type to another as I'm sure all the map
providers use different ways of storing their information.
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre"
<charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:19 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Maps Sendero supports


Nothing yet for Mexico either.

Here is a list of all the countries we currently support.

USA
Canada
UK / Ireland
Australia
Germany
France
Belgium
Switzerland
Netherlands
Sweden
Denmark
Spain
Austria
Italy
Poland
Norway
Singapore / Malaysia / Hong Kong

Thank you
Charles


At 07:12 PM 12/1/2007, you wrote:
What about  Mexico?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre"
<charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: updated User POIs


Sorry currently there are no maps for Israel.

Charles.

At 05:04 PM 12/1/2007, you wrote:
Hi,

Do maps exist for Israel?

Thanks,

shayna

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May"
<MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] updated User POIs


We have uploaded the latest User POI files.  Go to
http://www.MySendero.com for instructions and the free download.

The 400extras zip file includes Asia and Africa cities.  I
also moved the New Zealand file into that zip file.

The 400user zip has some new US and Canada POIs including
over 10,000 user generated points in the US alone.  There are
some quarter million including transit stops in some cities
and audio ATM locations from 4 banks.

Mike



Michael G.  May

CEO Sendero Group

Developers and distributors of the Cadillac of accessible GPS
products as well as distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote,
Victor Stream, Talks, Miniguide and the ID Mate

Crashing Through by Robert Kurson available at
http://www.CrashingThrough.com

MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.SenderoGroup.com

1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007
Sendero Group, LLC
1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA

Charles M.  La Pierre CTO
Sendero Group, LLC

Lat.  37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W




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Sendero Group, LLC

Lat.  37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W



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