True paul, Anything *can* work out, Lord willing. All marketing-type research can be pointless and a time-sink if the founder/driving vision is good at being "the customer" and/or the product has little or no competition. Not all ventures have the same capitalization and market-timing that some companies have had. Focus groups are often more overlooked in tech due to its heritage of breakthroughs/no competition and particularly absent in audio SW since it is a small market with a lot of companies with little time or $. Perhaps more customer focus will happen as tech gets more commoditized and competitive. Furthermore, successful standards are not necessarily products or need names anyway. You can just take the AES and SMPTE approach and give it a number and let companies just use the stuff. On the spec sheet your product just has a SW equivalent of an "AES/EBU" spigot with the same (often wrong) assumptions:^). Or there is the 1394 fiasco where some folks choose numbers and others choose "different" names for the same thing. However, I would contend that it gives you a better idea of the outcome of your efforts with focus research and it is not hard to do, especially in our business where folks are passionate about the work. Most of our users just want something that works for them, whatever it's called (I bought *ONE CD* that works with all my apps and platforms). That is the tuff thing and it's usually more about business politics than technologies. 'nuff said. --kT on 12/1/03 10:08 AM, Paul Davis at paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > there is a widespread belief that "focus groups" for naming are > common. i can neither deny nor affirm this belief, but i can tell you > that for most well-known name i've been involved in adopting > (amazon.com), there was no focus group and no discussion of even > having a focus group. i suspect that this is far more common than most > people think. > > --p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe