>well, i guess you means STATA = Static Data , where the size cannot be >changed during the life of the effect hinstance... no, i think that "stata" and "statum" are invented lexical terms derived from "state" not "static". i have to say that i don't like the use of these terms, even though the concept they are labelling seems fine. computer science must have generated some existing terms for this, surely? as for their size varying, i think they would work in a similar way to VST's getChunk, as far as i can tell from the discussion to date. a plugin would get N bytes of a "stata" when its state is set, but could return N+M bytes when its state is queried later (e.g. post version change, or when its state has been altered so that more information is required to represent it). --p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe