Hi Michael, Supporting score-driven music is important, but perhaps it's easier to use a small 'wrapper' to perform the conversion. i.e. CSound-style MIDI Style [Start-time + Duration] ---->[Converter]------>[Note-on],[Note-off] The code would be trivial, but would save plugin writters from supporting two different standards. I guess my main objection to sending an instrument a 'note-duration', is that it has to store it somewhere, plus it has to understand musical-time, and track tempo changes etc, quite a lot to implement in every instrument. Best Regards, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gogins" <gogins@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: [gmpi] Re: GIMPI-MIDI > The duration field could be -1 to indicate an indefinite duration; upon the > release of the note instance, the instrument might reset the duration to > allow for a decay tail. The advantage of this scheme is that both real-time > and score-driven performance can be carried out by the same event schema and > the same instrument code. Although the purview of GMPI is real-time > performance, there is no reason not to support score-driven (or off-line) > performance if that can be done without complicating the specification, and > I am sure that it can be done. This would enable GMPI to encompass > event-transforming instruments of greater sophistication but less complexity > than having to maintain a note on-note off pair for each note. As you know, > a number of sequencers represent notes internally this way and must > translate them to pairs to drive instrument plugins. > > Yes, .3 would be the instance tag in your example. > > > ============================================ > Michael Gogins > gogins at pipeline period com > Irreducible Productions > CsoundVST, an extended version of Csound for programming music and sound > Available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/ > ============================================ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Poirier" <fipnid@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:16 PM > Subject: [gmpi] Re: GIMPI-MIDI > > > > --- Michael Gogins wrote: > > > I do not agree that separating note number and pitch is a good idea. > > > > Why not? > > > > > I do agree that providing an ability to repitch a note during > > > performance is good, even vital. > > > > > > Csound allows a note to carry a tag. Subsequent note on messages with > > > the same tag do not re-initialize the note, but carry new information > > > about ANY parameter to the instrument synthesizing that note. It could > > > be pitch bend, volume, filter cutoff, whatever. > > > > > > So I propose: > > > > > > [time][duration][status][channel][key][velocity][userdefined]... > > > > Specifying duration of course isn't possible in a realtime live > > performance context, though. > > > > > If the status field has a fractional part, the fraction acts as an > > > instance tag and the event is routed to the instrument instance that > > > first received a note on message with that tag. > > > > I didn't follow that. Could you rephrase? What exactly do you mean by > > "instance tag" in this context? And you mean that, if status is for > > example 6.3, then 0.3 is the "instance tag"? I think that I'm not really > > getting what you mean... > > > > Marc > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list > > Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the > > following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own > > words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. 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