>These USB controllers may not have a MIDI jack, but if they are music >controllers they almost always implement a MIDI driver. If all it's got >is HID or proprietary USB then the gear can't interoperate with other >gear, and what's the point in that? Do you want me to send you the responses I get from companies that make these devices when I ask them for specs so that we can do an open-source implementation of their protocol? Even for Mackie, they were pretty pissed when it turned out that Emagic had inadvertently leaked the entire sysex control protocol for the {Mackie,Logic}Control on their website. Interoperation of DAWs and control surfaces is part of the old "host differentiation" that we've heard about. Apparently no reason to favor interoperability in this market when you can use protocols to forge strategic relationships ... --p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe