I'm sorry, but more and more music is not playable by humans, nor is there any reason why it should be. Movies can't be acted on stage, so why should music be performed on stage? I love live music and will do nothing to harm it, but I wish to explore the artistic possibilities of unperformable music. Film music, musique concrete, electroacoustic music, and most recorded pop music is simply unperformable and nobody cares. There you go again, "uncommon level." OK, playing faster than 144 BPM is uncommon, so there's no reason for the metronome to go above that, no reason for any sequencer to support that, OK? Oh, you want to play bebop? Too bad, you don't count, there's no reason for me to take you seriously, you're a minority, an oddball, a geek. The whole reason for a technical protocol is to remove all possible limitations (if that can actually be done), not to accomodate a comfortable majority of users. Think about TCP/IP and the address space limitation again. It ALWAYS happens that a hard limit ends up getting in the way; it doesn't matter how reasonable it seems at the time... as soon as you can network, you want to get everyone on the network. As soon as you can record sounds, you keep piling on more and more sounds and making them more and more precise until they are sliced into grains and hundreds of layers thick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom White" <twhite@xxxxxxxx> To: <gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:04 PM Subject: [gmpi] Re: 3.15 MIDI > > Who said all music is humanly performed? Are you still living in the > > twentieth century? Most music these days is assembled using software. > > .. > > You may not understand this, but by denying technical validity to my > > musical requirements you are saying it's fine with you if my > > instruments are crippled. > > ... > > It is not nice, it is not polite, and it will not work to deprecate > > someone's work or tools because it is "not normal" or "unusual". > > I can agree that most music is assembled using software, but even > then it is generally capable of being played by humans. Certainly you > can set the benchmark for MIDI at an uncommon level if you like. But > that doesn't make your level any more "right" than anyone else's. > MIDI isn't inadequate... it's just inadequate for some things some > people want to do. (There is a significant difference). > > > I currently work in the Csound community where this kind of > > thing is perfectly routine, and everyone already understands > > these issue; but it's a small community, with a small output > > of music. I'd prefer to be part of a bigger community with > > more resources and a larger output of music -- if I don't > > have to give up capabilities. > > Sure, it would be nice if MIDI could do even more... and I don't > recall anyone suggesting that GMPI should be limited to MIDI's own > limitations. > > What I heard proposed is that the group needs to consider MIDI as > a control protocol. I agree that should be discussed. > > I don't think that discussion requires participants to identify > all the reasons they believe MIDI is inadequate. > > - Tom White > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list > Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the > following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own > words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not > redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. > > Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi > Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe > -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe