[gha] Re: (peace from harmony) Re: Article +++ Individualism and communitarianism in harmony

  • From: Laj Utreja <lutreja7@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:04:07 -0600

Dear Leo:

I'll send you another article, "The genesis and fall of social orders for
social harmony in Vedic India" soon.

My comments in the last email are consistent with the Vedic Varnashram
system and your system of Tetrasociology
(Both differ to the extent of details of job classifications to suit the
prevailing social conditions).
My views on harmony are not strictly my interpretation of harmony, but
yours, Vedic and universal as well, in which
all classes of people in a society must do work (based on their interest
and skills) and be so recognized and accepted.
And then they stay in harmony, because all the needs of the society and the
people are being fulfilled and all are
appropriately compensated. Moreover, no overly credit is given to one
profession at the cost of rating the other so low as to lose human dignity.

However, individualism based only on self promotion (I'm the most capable),
selfish interest (I'm worth it),
and personal good (I'm better than everyone else, so I deserve it) at the
cost of  the society (especially its
vulnerability to pleasure which may disintegrate its traditions, culture,
or what have you) is what the
current political and economic systems are encouraging. This is based on
systematic exploitation of human ego
and human sensuousness by development of systems to take roots and allow
adequate time to become appealing,
until we all fall prey and then they get you.

Above all common sense is more important than any theory, reason or faith.
Leo Tolstoy said the following:
“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.” ― Leo
Tolstoy <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/128382.Leo_Tolstoy>,
*A Confession <http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2847065>​ *

Love and regards,
Laj


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> Dear Laj,
>
> Many thanks for your kind words and poems. We are looking forward to your
> other article devoted to the Vedas and peace from harmony.
>
> Your comments express the individualistic interpretation of harmony. But
> social harmony is impossible without social (communitarian) side.
> Individualism and communitarianism are two inseparable aspects of social
> harmony. Each, separately from the other, does not make sense.
>
> Harmfulness of individualism emphasized many philosophers. "Taylor (as
> well as Alasdair MacIntyre, Michael Walzer, Michael Sandel, and Gad
> Barzilai) is associated with a communitarian critique of liberal theory's
> understanding of the "self." Communitarians emphasize the importance of
> social institutions in the development of individual meaning and identity" (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taylor_ (philosopher).
>
> Charles Taylor (Taylor, C 1991, *The Ethics of Authenticity*, Harvard
> University Press , Cambridge, Massachusetts and London, England) says that
> Western Civilization is dying because of individualism. Therefore,
> individualism, separated from communitarianism is death and not harmony.
>
> We, the GHA, in our new book Global Peace Science (GPS) say that this
> science is not possible without ethics of communitarianism, without ethics
> of compassion for humanity, drowning in militarism, hence without ethics of
> individual self-sacrifice for the common good of mankind. If we demonstrate
> only individualism and not demonstrate this ethic, we neglect by compassion
> to humanity and global peace, i.e. we actually find ourselves by silent
> practical militarists, though bathed in a peaceful, harmonious and
> individualistic rhetoric.
>
> I think we have to worry not only about the individual but also about
> society and its common good, which cannot be without sacrifice and
> donations, though tiny, at least 200-500 or 1000 dollars. But unfortunately
> we do not see, with very rare exceptions, even such compassion and
> self-sacrifice for the sake of global peace as the first common good, even
> among members of the GHA, who consider themselves as peacemakers. Do you
> consider this as normal and ethical norm for our harmony?
>
> As for your idea of foundations and grants, I have already said that we
> addressed during the year in more than a hundred institutions, but have not
> received any response. You, as you told us, also looking for funding for
> your wonderful Institute of Harmony about two years, with the publication
> of *the ABC of Harmony*, which launched it. It's good. But we did not
> hear from you any messages that you can find any funding or grant. Or do
> you keep it a secret? If you have such a positive experience, please share
> it with us, please, be compassionate to your friends and colleagues from
> the GHA. Thank you.
>
> With love, best harmony wishes,
>
> Leo
>
> Dr Leo Semashko:
> State  Councillor  of  St.  Petersburg,
> Philosopher, Sociologist and Peacemaker from Harmony;
> Director:  Tetrasociology Public Institute, Russia;
> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585 and
> In Russian: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=ru_c&key=606;
> World Interfaith Harmony Project on the ABC of Harmony Base:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=541;
> GHA Program Book, The ABC of Harmony for World Peace:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=478;
> GHA Peace Video: http://youtu.be/hbxY5lREOeA;
> My Web page: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=253;
> Address: 7/4-42 Ho-Shi-Min Street, St. Petersburg 194356, Russia
> Phone: 7 (812) 597-65-71; Skype: leo.semahko
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/leo.semashko?ref=tn_tnmn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Laj Utreja, lutreja7@xxxxxxxxx
>   To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: 7 февраля 2014 г., 20:01:45
>   Subject: [gha] Re: (peace from harmony) Re: Article
>
> Dear Leo:
>
> I hope and pray you are in good health and cheers.
> I submit to you the attached two poems and definitions of acceptance and
> tolerance for consideration.
>
> I submit the following response to your comments:
>
> *Comment One *1. Global harmony results from recognition and acceptance
> of the uniqueness of each element and
>      being that forms and inhabits the globe.
> 2. Together, in the GHA, we seek to create harmony of all elements and
> beings to achieve peace.
> 3. Each one of us is limited, and therefore is unique in style and
> substance to contribute to the society at large.
> 4. Rather than inhibiting individual style and substance by merging into
> one, which loses the uniqueness of that individual,
>     let each style and substance bloom in its own shape and fragrance and
> we all enjoy that in harmony.
> 5. The world will not stand by and not accept the suitable one, but each
> one has a place for harmony, and each one will become        suitable in
> its own time and place.
>
> *Comment Two *1. There are many of us, who can and yet abstain from
> contributing. For the sake of harmony, we must respect that view.
> 2. There are many of us, who can't and under pressure may do so
> compromising their life-style. For the sake of harmony, we must      not
> stress that individual circumstance.
> 3.  If this is an academic study, we need to find a a suitable agency,
> which may accept to fund this under a grant and then carry          out
> research in a university set-up.
> 4.  For the pursuit of exploration of the idea, we need to approach a
> suitable foundation, which may accept to explore the idea
>  further for its application.
>
> With love and regards,
> Laj
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Laj,
>
> Excuse my delay, please.
>
> Thank you very much for your interesting article with bibliography for
> GPS: "
>
>
>
> *Creating Harmonious Civilization – A New Paradigm in Education" Please,
> let me a little correction for the title as: Creating Harmonious
> Civilization through Global Peace – A New Paradigm in Education. - Do you
> agree with it?  *Another question: What do you think about donation as a
> way to finance our GPS book and about your personal donation? Could you
> suggest other way to finance our GPS?
>
> Thank you.
>
> With love, best harmony wishes,
>
> Leo
>
> Dr Leo Semashko:
> State  Councillor  of  St.  Petersburg,
> Philosopher, Sociologist and Peacemaker from Harmony;
> Director:  Tetrasociology Public Institute, Russia;
> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585 and
> In Russian: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=ru_c&key=606;
> World Interfaith Harmony Project on the ABC of Harmony Base:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=541;
> GHA Program Book, The ABC of Harmony for World Peace:
> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=478;
> GHA Peace Video: http://youtu.be/hbxY5lREOeA;
> My Web page: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=253;
> Address: 7/4-42 Ho-Shi-Min Street, St. Petersburg 194356, Russia
> Phone: 7 (812) 597-65-71; Skype: leo.semahko
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/leo.semashko?ref=tn_tnmn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Laj Utreja, lutreja7@xxxxxxxxx
>   To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: 3 февраля 2014 г., 20:59:39
>   Subject: Article
>
> Dear Leo:
> Attached is one of my articles for our book.
> I'd send you the second in a week.
> Regards,
> Laj
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*Dr. Laj Utreja *
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Gandhi Vidya Mandir, Sardarshahr, Rajasthan, India
Tel: 08003044016
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