[gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are changing what you wrote before... Why???? -- (Response #2)
- From: Takis Ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:08:01 +0300
Dear all peacemakers,
please stop the conflicts.
All nations have the right to live on this planet and survive as well.
We must be all together to merge our efforts in the name of love for the
common target of PEACE.
If we split our power in many orgnanizations, this power will be weak.
We must be the healthgy paradigm for the humans.
We must respect the opinion of the others.
Please love each other.
with love and respect
Takis Ioannides
student of this Life
2014-09-30 10:11 GMT+03:00 Prof. Ernesto Kahan <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> *Dear Hedva *
>
> *Anti-Semitism is an old feeling deeply rooted in many people. It is very
> difficult to combat with arguments and facts. This man maybe have this
> racism in the "blood"*
>
>
>
> *Oh**, if people could understand that with the use of love will do more
> than with hate!* *Ernesto Kahan, 2013*
>
>
> *From:* Hedva Bachrach <hedgad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 8:31 PM
> *To:* t <tpaupp@xxxxxxx> ; gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; tpaupp@xxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are
> changing what you wrote before... Why???? -- (Response #2)
>
> On 27/09/2014 23:47, t wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> *First, I'm not rambling as I am the one who lives here and have lived
> here and not you sir. We went out of Gaza so we did not steal any land,
> they were free people from 2005 on. The siege was set up only later, when
> they received endless armament and missiles from Iran through sea and
> tunnels from the sinai desert. It is terrible to see how you are sure and
> stuck in your own Ideas and ideologies, without the slightest experience
> what goes on here. It is very easy to live far away and have such a
> negative attitude, you don't lose anything - while we have lost a lot.Where
> does this conviction and hatred come from??????? By the way, the partition
> decision was taken by the majority votes of the U.N in 1947, to give us and
> Palestinian a recognition as U.N. legal members - Although the U.S was
> one of the votes which sustained us, there was no bribery foolish story or
> do you think that because we are jews we always deal with money???? do you
> use the Jewish theme??? believe me , I don't have much money, neither do
> about 70% and more of our population. We also have poverty cases.... Your
> hate is estonishing sir! and to let you know, the jews, like today's
> economists and accountants, grew experts in money matters as the other
> population was not allowed tgo deal with money.( only a small percentage ,
> as most of the jews were poor and held their children in yeshivas -schools-
> not to roam in the streets, and to prevent illiteracy) They grew experts
> as there was no other profession they were allowed to hold, not to have
> lands and no other professions, and generally they were chased from country
> to country. what you do sir is smearing my people. We, Israeli people,
> have never wanted these casualties to happen. We are educated according to
> the 10 commandments, however we must defend ourselves. Why don't you write
> and say anything against the Hamas terrorists and terrorists in general who
> send missiles towards civil population, who are suicide bombers - as their
> extreme religion tells them - to be Shahids. What do you say about a
> movement who holds its citizens as a human shield, putting missile
> launchers , arm staches and entrances to tunnels in civil houses?? on the
> roof of hospitals and in Unrwa installations... Are not they the ones who
> commit crimes against humanity..?? while our army throws pamphlets, calls
> by phone and sms to evacuatge civil houses, Or you don't condemn
> terrorists acts??????! **why does not*
>
>
> *the world ever ask responsibilty from Arab countries and from Terror
> groups????? Don't you ask Arab countries to be responsible, only because
> they have o i l ???????????????????????*
> *Maybe I don't know enough about U.S. laws, but let me ask you - How would
> you react against missiles sent into the U.S. *
>
>
>
> *you who have had the terrible and tragic event of 9/11??????? would you
> wait as a lamb for the slaughter of
> terrorists???????????????????????????????????? And as for my own
> ignorance, you can look me up in the google.D*r. Hedva.R. Bachrach
> Former member of an international committee, for 6 years
> in charge of evaluating community projects in some countries in Europe,
> T urkey and some Asian Countries.
>
> The cultural atachee with the outside world of the Israeli Council of
> Women Organizations
>
> The CIR of the Academic women organization in Israel, and member of the
> International IFUW
> Member of committee of the Israeli Association of Writers
> Member of World Poetry Organizations
> Past resident of some developing countries...
>
> So you see sir, I have some knowledge of the vast world, not much - I
> admit. However, I wish you and your family a good life, and please think
> and search for facts for what you are saying...
> Thank you
> Hedva
>
>
>
> It is clear that you have no understanding the US law or international
> law. The US sold Israel on the condition that those weapons would be used
> "for defensive purposes only." Now, Israel has launched an illegal war
> against Gaza to steal land and commit a genocide of the Palestinian people
> --- in violation of international law. Israel and the US have created a
> humanitarian crisis that also violates the mandates of humanitarian law,
> human rights law, and any semblance of ethics.
>
> You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Further, the
> partition you mention was itself illegal--- it was bought when some
> Zionists gave President Harry Truman a $1-million dollar bribe (under the
> table).. Every since that time, we have seen what the sins and
> illegalities of the dispossession of a people from their own land has
> bought.
>
> Your ideological rambling and half-truths are a pathetic excuse for an
> attack on me and all those who value human rights law, the laws of war,
> ethics and morality. I am sure that you love Henry Kissinger---because he
> thinks and acts like you do.
>
> *Sincerely,*
>
> *Terry Paupp*
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hedva Bachrach mailto:hedgad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <hedgad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: gha-peace mailto:gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> tpaupp mailto:tpaupp@xxxxxxx <tpaupp@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 27, 2014 12:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [gha-peace] Re: Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are changing what
> you wrote before... Why????
>
> On 18/09/2014 19:43, t (Redacted sender tpaupp@xxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
>
> *why don't you write and think about the continuous genocide of **Israelis
> by Palestinians?*? *by means of terrorf, suicide bombers, kidnappings of
> civilians and soldierfs, throwing children and their brains against the
> wall - the Haran family, Naharia... laying explosives near schools and
> kindergardens// Only what the Israelis do is wrong????????? *What about
> beheading of a soldier and sending the video to his family... What about
> aiming and sending missiles towards civil population??/ always towards
> civil population... *We have entered* Palestinian territories in 1967 ,
> only because of terror.. *The* WEST BANK ENTERS INTO ISRAEL UNTIL 22 KM
> FROM THE SEA.. THERE ARE 25000 OF HAMAS PEOPLE IN THE WEST BANK TOO... gAZA
> WAS FREE SINCE 2005, WHEN WE WENT OUT AND SHARON TOOK OUT ALL THE
> SETTLEMENTS.. bUT THE SHIHITE hAMAS ORGANIZATION TOOK POWER, AND ARMED BY
> IRAN, LIKE THE HIZBALLA, GOT ARMAMENT AND MISSILES THROUGH TUNNELS UNDER
> THE CITY OF GAZA, TUNNELS WHICH ALSO PASSED THE ISRAELI BORDER AND THEIR
> EXITS WERE FOUND INSIDE KIBUTZIM AND NEAR VILLAGES IN SOUTHERN ISRAEL.
>
> tHE HAMAS DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ISRAEL; EVERYBODY FORGETS THAT UNTIL 1919
> THERE WAS THE TURKISH OTTOMAN EMPIRE IN THE AREA, THERE WAS NO JORDAN, NO
> ISRAEL, NO PALESTINE.. ONLY THE BRITISH CONQUERORS AND FRENCH WHICH ALSO
> GAVE THE HASHEMITE FAMILY JORDAN AND OTHER TERRITORIES. sYRIA AND LEBANON
> WERE RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED NATIONS IN 1946, WE AND PALESTINIANS IN
> 1947, BY THE U.N. PARTITION DECISION. *WE RECOGNIZED THE PALESTINIAN
> STATE.. 5 ARAB NATIONS INCLUDING PALESTINIANS ATTACKED US IN THE 1948 WAR,
> WHICH WE, HOLOCAUST SURVIVERS AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE AREA FOR
> GENERATIONS SURVIVED WITH GOD'S HELP. SINCE THEN, AND EVEN BEFORE, WHEN
> THE JERUSALEM MUFTI APPROACHED THE NAZI REGIME IN THE 30IES, IN 1929, THE
> WHOLE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN HEBRON WAS MASSACRED. pLEASE READ A LITTLE
> HISTORY MR. PAUPP. THE LEBANON WARS WERE CAUSED, AT FIRST BECAUSE SHARON
> WANTED TO ERADICATE ARAFFAATS TERROR GROUPS IN LEBANON, AND THE SECOND
> BECAUSE THE HIZBALLA GOT ARMS AND MISSILES FROM TEHERAN.. THROUGH SYRIA...
> OUR NORHERN CITIES WERE UNDER ATTACK.. OF MISSILES FOR 3 YEARS. UNTIL THE
> SECOND LEBANON WAR. THE SIEGE ON GAZA WAS SET UP , AS THE HAMAS GOT
> ARMAMENT FROM IRAN THROUGH THE SEA AND THROUGH THE SINAI DESERT BEDUINS,
> THROUGH THE TUNNELS AT THE EGYPTIAN SIDE.. FROM THE ISRAELI SIDE FOOD AND
> MERCHANDISE WAS TRANSMITTED INTO GAZA ALL THE TIME.. GAZA PEOPLE WHO WERE
> SICK WERE TREATED IN OUR SOUTHERN HOSPITALS.. ISRAEL PROVIDED ELECTRICITY
> UNTIL THE LAST WAR, WHERE THE HAMAS FIRED AT EVEN ELECTICITY CENTRAL
> POLES.. wE DEEPLY GRIEVE FOR THE CASUALTIES, REALLY - WE NEVER INTENDED IT
> TO HAPPEN, BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO IF ARMAMENT, MISSILE LAUNCHERS ARE IN
> CIVILIAN HOUSES, ALSO ENTRANCES INTO TUNNELS.. WHY IN UNRWA INSTALATIONS
> THERE WERE ARMAMENT STACHES?? WHY WERE MISSILES LAUNCHED FROM MARKET PLACES
> , FROM MOSQUES AND FROM THE ROOFS OF HOSPITALS?? NO ARMY IN THE WORLD
> WARNED CIVILIANS TO EVACUATE*, AND EVEN BY PHAMPLETS FROM THE AIR AND
> ALSO PHONE CALLS, WHICH ENDANGERED THE SOLDIERS, REVEALING THEIR PLACE.. iN
> THE MOSQUES THEY PREACHED TO THE POPULATION THAT ISRAEL IS BLUFFING...
> hAMAS PEOPLE INTIMIDATED CIVILIANS TO STAY IN THEIR HOUSES TOO.. *THAT
> IS INTERESTING HOW THE HAMAS LEADERS WERE IN TUNNELS, WHILE THE POPULATION
> WAS SUFFERING.. HUMAN SHIELDS... OUR GOVERNMENTS , BECAUSE OF THE LONG
> YEARS OF TERROR AND WARS - 7 WARS *
>
>
> *DURING66 YEARS, EVERY NEW HOUSING MUST HAVE SHELTERS, AND THERE ARE
> PUBLIC SHELTERS FOR ABOUT 70 % OF THE POPULATION.THE GAZA STRIP HAD 300.000
> TONS OF CONCRETE WHICH ENTERED INTO THE TERRITORY.. NOTHING WAS USED TO
> BUILD HOUSES, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS. IT WAS USED TO BUILD TUNNELS...*
> *L**THERE WERE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS FOR PEACE AGREEMENTS, ARAFAAT AND EVEN
> THE PRESENT LEADERS, *
> *AT THE LAST MOMENT DID NOT MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS.. NOW WE HAVE A RIGHT
> WING GOVERNMENT, ONLY BECAUSE OF SO MUCH TERROR. THE TERROR YOU ARE READING
> ABOUT NOWADAYS, RISING ITS UGLY HEAD, WE KNEW IT FOR 66 YEARS. sO DON'T
> SPEAK TO US ABOUT GENOSIDE, BEFORE READING AND HAVING MORE INFORMATION. IN
> GAZA THEY TEACH KINDERGARDEN CHILDREN THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE
> SHAHIDS... IN THE WEST BANK ISRAEL DOES NOT EXIST ON THE MAP IN SCHOOLS...
> THERE ARE 22 ARAB STATES, THERE IS ONLY ONE TINY ISRAEL WHICH IS OUR HOME.
> WE SHALL NEVER ALLOW ANOTHER GENOCIDE AND HOLOCAUST!!!! NEVER
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |||tHIS IS AN ISRAELI MOTHER WRITING TO
> YOU, H.R. B.*
>
> *PLEASE READ---*
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: gha-peace mailto:gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> peace-from-harmony mailto:peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leo.semashko
> mailto:leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ada.aharoni06 mailto:ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx <ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx>;
> roberts_susana mailto:roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx>; schandra101 mailto:schandra101@xxxxxxxxx
> <schandra101@xxxxxxxxx>; takis.ioannides
> mailto:takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> ammarbanni mailto:ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx <ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx>; guy.crequie
> mailto:guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx <guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 9:37 am
> Subject: [gha-peace] Re: Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are changing what you
> wrote before... Why????
>
> *Ah!!! Mr. Ernesto. *
>
> *According to you it is just fine, moral and legal to allow Israel--- with
> US Empire support--- to launch a genocide of the Palestinian people and
> continue an illegal occupation. The United Nations and the UN Charter have
> a different view than you do, So do other human rights groups around the
> world,*
>
> *Why don't you read the works of James Petras and other scholars on this
> subject? Why don't you discuss the take-over of US-Foreign Policy as
> numerous scholars have done?*
>
> *Why don't you talk about the violations of US laws regarding the sale of
> arms and weapons to Israel--- which are supposed to be ONLY used for
> "defensive purposes" and not for "offensive purposes" and aggression, or
> for genocide to grab more land that Israel does not own and is NOT entitled
> to under law?*
>
> *Sincerely,*
>
> *Terrence Paupp*
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prof. Ernesto Kahan <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: gha-peace <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; peace-from-harmony <
> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leo.semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ada.aharoni06 <ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx>; roberts_susana <
> roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx>; schandra101 <schandra101@xxxxxxxxx>;
> takis.ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ammarbanni <
> ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx>; guy.crequie <guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 8:27 am
> Subject: [gha-peace] Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are changing what you
> wrote before... Why????
>
> *Ah!!! Mr. Terry... Now you are changing what you wrote before...
> Why???? It was not convenient for your interests???*
> *I know typos like you!! Don’t think you will see the cremation of Jews
> without resistance!!*
> *You will not be the President of American GHA without a strong resistance
> or without a division of GHA *
> *Ernesto Kahan*
>
> *From:* mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:52 PM
> *To:* gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
> leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx ; galtung@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
> roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx ; schandra101@xxxxxxxxx ;
> takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx ;
> guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gha-peace] Re: (peace from harmony) RE: Re: My position + +
> Peace and harmony are incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance:
> cleansing GHA from them
>
> *TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERNL*
>
> *The illegal wars that the US EMPIRE waged against the people of Vietnam
> was a war of aggression It was as brutal as the Nazis invasion of Europe
> and Russia, The head prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trails--- Telford
> Taylor--- wrote a book on this matter, You should all read it.*
>
> *The war and illegal invasion an occupation of Iraq was a war of
> aggression in violation of the Nuremberg Principles and UN Charter. *
>
> *Sincerely,*
>
> *Terry*
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prof. Ernesto Kahan <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: peace-from-harmony <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; gha-peace <
> gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Leo Semashko' <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: 'Ada Aharoni' <ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx>; 'Johan Galtung' <
> galtung@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'peace-from-harmony' <
> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Susana Roberts' <
> roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Subhash Chandra' <schandra101@xxxxxxxxx>;
> 'Takis Ioannides' <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ammarbanni <
> ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx>; 'Guy Crequie' <guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 6:37 am
> Subject: [gha-peace] Re: (peace from harmony) RE: Re: My position + +
> Peace and harmony are incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance:
> cleansing GHA from them
>
> *What the foreign policy of the US EMPIRE embodies is not a bit
> different from the crimes committed by the Nazis and condemned at
> Nuremberg, IF you read the Nuremberg Principles, then you will understand
> what I mean. TERRENCE PAUPP*
>
> *WHAT?!!! Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
>
>
>
> *Dear Leo and members** of GHA: *
> I waited long time to evaluate what is being written on this forum which at
> the time, it honoured me as a World Harmony Creator and first Vice Chair
> Global Harmony Association (GHA).
> In English, which is not my first language, I want to say that I totally
> agree with Pope Francisco in his perception that the third world war was
> started
> or it is on the doorstep of our society. Under these conditions, it is
> logic to see all the presence of the manifestations of political
> extremism everywhere and unfortunately, also lately in this forum.
> What bothers me very much is the lack of tolerance among the positions of
> members who go to extremes of manifest personal insults and lack of
> respect.
> Before continuing I am obliged to warn some of *those irresponsible who
> are accusing** as "Nazi to the American Empire", and are using the terms
> genocide and holocaust*, when I suppose they want to refer to massacres
> and destruction, without even pausing for a moment, to think in what they
> are saying or writing. If all is genocide, then nothing is genocide and
> by that by larger, are forgiving of genocide. If I were a Nazi, I would be
> permanently grateful for that statement in favor of forgiving the
> industrialized factory of greatest crimes of modern history. Those who
> equals any present country with Nazi Germany, deforms the history; are
> insulting the Holocaust victims; forgives prosecuted and condemned the
> Nazis in Nuremberg; and prepare the environment for a new racial wave
> phobic world. Possibly those people are ignorant, but very likely are
> camouflaged Nazi.
> Now let me clarify the term “Science” very much used in the present
> discussions in GHA.
> Britannica Encyclopedia: *science is any system of knowledge that is
> concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails
> unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science
> involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations
> of fundamental laws*.
>
> Thus, in the majority of associations for values such as peace, harmony,
> etc., the methodology used for the spread out of ideas, is the
> communication of opinions more or less convincing and based more on
> historical events, bibliography, and deductions from the analysis of
> situations.
>
> Opinions are not experiences, but hypotheses. In many cases are
> philosophical positions reinforced by logic arguments, beliefs, moral
> attitudes and/or mathematical graphic presentations for demonstration.
> Science is a different method and discipline. As a consequence of that,
> nobody in GHA should accuse other person of not been scientific.
>
> *In the present circumstances I will take time to observe the developments
> in GHA, without voting and participating in debates.*
>
> Prof. Emeritus Dr. Ernesto Kahan MD University Professor - Poet – Physician
> Tel Aviv University, Israel.
> Academician of Honor - International Academy of Sciences, Technology,
> Education and Humanities (AICTEH) - Spain
> Honorary President- Israeli Association Writers. Spanish Branch
> 1st Vice President - World Academy of Arts and Culture USA
> Former Vice President of IPPNW (Association awarded the Nobel Peace Prize)
> and the actual president of the Israeli Branch
> Honorary President Co Founder United Nations of Letters
> 1st Honorary President of SIPEA – International Society of Poets Writers
> and Artists
> Vice President Intl Forum for Literature and Culture of Peace (IFLAC)
> Co-President -UHE- International Union of Hispano-American Writers
> GHA World Harmony Creator and Vice chair. Global Harmony Association
> (GHA).
>
> *From:* mailto:peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:51 AM
> *To:* gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 'Leo Semashko' <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* 'Ada Aharoni' <ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx> ; 'Johan Galtung'
> <galtung@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'peace-from-harmony'
> <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'ernesto kahan'
> <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'Susana Roberts' <roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx> ;
> 'Subhash
> Chandra' <schandra101@xxxxxxxxx> ; 'Takis Ioannides'
> <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx ; 'Guy Crequie'
> <guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* (peace from harmony) RE: [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace
> and harmony are incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA
> from them
>
>
>
> This is a group of people, professors and intellectuals all following
> a common vision for peace.
>
> However , from reading the E Mails I see a variety of opinions some are
> accusatory or self-defensive or divided by religious opinion and
> persuasion.
>
> It seems a common thread is the statement that the US Empire is
> destroying the world and I suppose if we accept Galtung as a member we
> should at least all read the protocols of Zion ,
>
> It is evident to me that this group is NOT impartial. It does not see
> things from an overall perspective. It has already decided the enemy. This
> Group, I can see is at war with the US Empire , How can you create peace
> from war?
>
> An appeal by telegram to 'several hundred prominent Americans' on 24 May
> 1946 in a 'Plea for $200,000 to promote new type of essential thinking' was
> signed by the Emergency Committee of Atomic Scientists with Albert Einstein
> as Chairman and the Federation of American Scientists. The text of that
> telegram is quoted in part and reads:
>
> *'Our world faces a crisis as yet unperceived by those possessing power to
> make great decisions for good or evil. The unleashed power of the atom has
> changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward
> unparalleled catastrophe*
>
> *People know that a new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to
> survive and move toward higher levels. This appeal is sent to you only
> after long consideration of the immense crisis we face*. ..
>
> Currently this group does not appear to have this kind of thinking
>
>
> Warmest Wishes,
> Michael.
> MD, DCH, BA ( Hons )
> *President Global Peace Centre*
>
>
>
> *From:* gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx? <gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?>] *On
> Behalf Of *María Cristina Azcona
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:34 AM
> *To:* Leo Semashko
> *Cc:* gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ada Aharoni; Johan Galtung;
> peace-from-harmony; ernesto kahan; Susana Roberts; Subhash Chandra; Takis
> Ioannides; ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx; Guy Crequie
> *Subject:* [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace and harmony are
> incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA from them
>
> Dear Leo
>
>
> A person that goes out after you called him a slanderer is not going for
> will, he is going because you are sending him out!
>
> I consider you as allways have a good hearted man, please listen to your
> heart
>
> (I provide a video about)
> Those who are gone are gone because you said bad words against them
> ignorants, or CIA agents in gha messages!
> Nobody may stay after receiving such names infront of everybody!
> This is not a route of peace, but of hatred and pain.
>
> I am with you in peacemaking as I consider you able to change your
> attitude for goodness, and that´s why I take my time to talk to you once
> more
>
> Those who are gone are my heart friends in life, in literature, they are
> my family in literature for peace and I miss them at the GHA
>
> I can give proofs of the good quality (intellectual and moral good
> quality) persons that leave the GHA after violent discussions
>
> Dont build think bunkers, Leo, build peace among diversity, and try to
> not be confused: diverse opinions in the GHA create the heat and the heat
> brings bad words but those words are only the foam over the consolidation
> of a NGO that will win the Nobel Peace prize for being PATIENT, for being
> capable to CHANGE THE MIND, for being capable to cowrite a book among 200
> persons of such diverse way of thinking
>
> Leo dont loose the direction of the first book, the Calendar, where we
> interchanged languages, thoughts, religions, cultures , now we make it
> deeper and the discussions incresed the heat but we are all good persons
> and we admire you, so be more patient and dont be afraid of Ammar or Bruce
> or Lida, they are not enemies of your project, they are simply persons that
> dont say lies to you trying to obtain a benefit, they tell you what they
> really think and probably what others also think about you but dont dare to
> say. There are many writers here that think exactly like Ammar or Lida and
> dont say a single word BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF YOUR RAGE OVER THEM
> I send you all my love and true friendship and BRING AGAIN TO THE TRUE
> GLOBAL HARMONY ASSOCIATION THOSE WHO ARE GONE
>
> *WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT DIVERSITY*
> *WE DONT WANT HARMONY OVER FEAR*
> *WE WANT TO BE LISTENED AND RESPECTED*
> *WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME BUT TRULY*
> *WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU*
>
>
> Now LISTEN TO YOUR HEART
> (Roxette)
> I don't know where you're going and I don't know why,
> But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye.
> And there are voices that want to be heard.
> So much to mention but you can't find the words.
> The sense of magic, the beauty that's been
> When love was wilder than the wind.
>
> Listen to your heart when he's calling for you.
> Listen to your heart there's nothing else you can do.
>
> I don't know where you're going and I don't know why,
> But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye.
>
> Listen to your heart when he's calling for you.
> Listen to your heart there's nothing else you can do.
>
> I don't know where you're going and I don't know why,
> But listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye.
> Songwriters: Gessle, Per H?kan / Persson, Mats Arne
> Listen To Your Heart lyrics © Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLjPt1B-Q8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *María Cristina Azcona*
> *@macazcona*
>
>
> *María Cristina Azcona*
>
> 2014-09-17 9:38 GMT-03:00 Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Dear Maria,
>
> Please, read Ammar's emails of September 8 as facts, which you ignore:
>
> "I leave GHA and its projects.
> I withdraw from GHA."
>
> It is his right. Do you want to cancel his right?
>
> Best harmony wishes,
>
> Leo
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maria Cristina Azcona, mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx
> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 10 сентября 2014 г., 5:52:46
> Subject: [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace and harmony are
> incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA from them
>
>
> Leo you cannot send Ammar out of Gha only by your impulsive unilateral
> decision
> Gha isnt you, is us
>
> And I want him into Gha
> Ammar you stay , the rest of us want you to stay
> Azcona Gha cofounder vice president
>
>
>
> Maria Cristina Azcona enviado desde Samsung tablet
>
> "Prof. Ernesto Kahan" <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> In order to obtain survival on Earth we must achieve world global peace.
> To achieve world global peace we must obtain a global agreement based on
> harmony.
> To obtain a global agreement based on harmony we must have tolerance
> Without tolerance we also will destroy the associations for harmony and
> peace
> Dear Ammar, I know about your hart and intentions for humankind. For sure
> we will continue walking in the same way
> Ernesto Kahan
>
> *From:* ammar banni <ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:56 PM
> *To:* gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Ada <ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx> ; Johan
> Galtung <galtung@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace and harmony are
> incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA from them
>
>
> Leo,
> Thank you for your words and your description that reflects a high
> egoism and sawn arrogance.You have touch my personality and my Trache heart
> .I think your thoughts are not a science of peace, this is a racist
> segregation, authoritarian, undemocratic .
> If ve talk about my actions towards peace in my country, you can read
> scientifically "Future algeria" my actions and through my students during
> my years of embers of my country(Algeria).I announces new is that I 'was
> condemned to death by terrorists and I spent months and years away from my
> family, still waiting for the daily death Guete me in the corners, to my
> mind who wanted to reconcile the people of my country .During this period,
> I ask Leo, where were you? I think you were in Russia in peace, away from
> any threat.
> Finally, I was disappointed with your attitude I see far from scientific
> behavior! And believe me, if you go in tis way , you will come to a dead
> end of your project,that you know to be effective because I learned that
> the criteria for success each project are: Good deal, democracy,
> feasibility and application!
> So, I have the honor to leave my GHA ,by naïvité and my good intentions,
> not some friends who are dear to me .I think time and space were judges us.
> Thank you.
> Ammar Banni from Algeria
>
>
> Le Mardi 9 septembre 2014 12h29, Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
>
>
> Dear Ammar,
>
> Your naive and intuitive aspirations to peace are good but for a true
> peacemaker it is not enough, there is still need honesty, courage and
> scientific knowledge, which, unfortunately, you are missing.
>
> Therefore, your letter as emails of your friends, Ada first and others,
> are imbued (intentionally or unintentionally) with lies, slander and
> ignorance. I'll show you and Ada lies, slander and ignorance on all three
> of your points.
>
> 1. “*Galtung's anti-Semitic position”*. Scientific ethics and honesty
> require, first and foremost, the facts expressed by the quote. We do not
> see any quotes of Galtung about it. We did not find anything like that on
> your links. Therefore, this your statement is a lie and slander on Galtung
> as long as you do not submit the relevant quote as fact. I could also
> announce "Ammar anti-Jewish position" and refer to your site. But it would
> be a lie and slander, until I not introduce the relevant fact-quote.
>
> 2. “*Galtung's support for ISIS”*, or, according to Ada "*he approves
> ISIS*". However, not Ada, not you follow her do not give any QUOTES as
> confirmation. Many times I asked Ada to give us this fact and quote of
> Galtung, but Ada ignores the scientific requirement and moral standard of
> honesty. Therefore, the approval of Ada, you and your friends that Galtung
> "supports, approves, and is ISIS" is your second lie and slander. You refer
> to an article about ISIS of Galtung, where it provides a scientific
> analysis of this phenomenon and its own assessment, on what he have the
> full right in accordance with the freedom of scientific creativity. But
> there is no "approval or support" of ISIS in this article does not exist.
> This is your lies and slander against Galtung.
>
> Here you are lying to me, "*Leo consolidated with ISIS”*. *Where did you
> read this?* In which my article or letter? This is your third lie and
> slander.
>
> 3*. “US Empire!”* I suggested that you meet with dozens of scholarly
> books and articles devoted to this topic. *Dr. Terrence Paupp* sent
> yesterday by email his three great books on this topic. *William Blum*
> sent me a message yesterday that his books on this subject is available at
> his website: (*www.williamblum.org <http://www.williamblum.org>)*. He was
> an employee of the USA State Department and foreign policy of the USA he
> knows professionally. His books about the militarism of American Empire, to
> which refers Galtung, deserve special your attention:
> - *Blum, William* (2013) *America's Deadliest Export: Democracy - The
> Truth About US Foreign Policy and Everything Else* (Zed Books) ISBN
> 1-78032-445-6 (
> *www.williamblum.org <http://www.williamblum.org>)*- *Blum, William*
> (2005): *Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower* (Common
> Courage Press) ISBN 1-56751-194-5 (
> *www.williamblum.org <http://www.williamblum.org>)*- *Blum, William*
> (2003) *Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War
> II*, revised edition (Common Courage Press) ISBN 1-56751-252-6 (
> *www.williamblum.org <http://www.williamblum.org>)*- *Blum, William*
> (2004) *Freeing the World to Death: Essays on the American Empire*
> (Common Courage Press) (*www.williamblum.org
> <http://www.williamblum.org>)*.
>
> Do you read at least one book of Paupp and Blum about the American Empire?
> We see that you have not read them and do not want to read them. You are
> afraid of the objective facts and scientific truth about it! All that I
> write about the American empire, all this is the ideas of the honest and
> courageous scientists who analyzed its inhuman, militaristic and criminal
> nature. I as honest scientist cannot ignore their theories and facts in our
> Global Peace Science. Therefore, it sounds conclusion: *all the wars and
> violence in the world today come from the American Empire and American
> "warmongering policy ... have blocked world peace",* in the words of
> Paupp.
>
> You and your friends’ lie, slander, and ignorance are shameful and
> incompatible with the mission of true peacemakers in GHA. You are not able
> to rise to the level of Global Peace Science, so you are not compatible
> with the GHA, *with its revolution of social and peaceful thinking* that
> you are not able to understand and recognize. The GHA does it together with
> Galtung and dozens of critics of the *American empire as the main
> obstacle for world peace*.
>
> Therefore, I welcome your way out of the GHA: *it is a natural
> self-cleaning GHA from the advocates of this empire but not peace*. As
> advocates of the empire, you are in essence, not peacemakers but
> militarists, and we cannot have anything in common. Your lies, slander,
> ignorance and neglect of science is your ineradicable impotence. With
> “peacemakers” like you, peace has never been and never will be! With you
> bloomed only wars and military empires in the past.
>
> GHA represents a new formation of peacemakers on a scientific basis and
> not on the basis of empty subjectivity and ignorant wishes. It is a bitter
> truth for peacekeepers, but it is a clearing truth, *it's a catharsis for
> global peace and peacemaking in the 21st century*! I waited for this
> catharsis and it has come! This my letter is summarizing and finishing on
> this theme. It develops Julia Budnikova’s email.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dr Leo Semashko,
> GHA President
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ammar banni, ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx
> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 8 сентября 2014 г., 19:54:30
> Subject: [gha-peace] My position
>
> Dear all,
> First of all, I appreciate the view of GUY who is a free person, free
> from all membership. Then I tell you why I voted "no" for this a awards to
> Pr Gultung:
>
> 1 For its anti Semitic position representing a skid for peace theorist
> should be neutral away from ideology and judgment.
>
> http://www.unrestmag.com/johan-galtung-an-anti-semite-i-dont-think-so/http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/06/johan-Galtung-on-jews/
> <http://www.unrestmag.com/johan-galtung-an-anti-semite-i-dont-think-so/http:/www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/06/johan-Galtung-on-jews/>
>
> 2-His support for ISIS, which is consolidated by Leo who is considering
> this criminal fundamentalist organization is the American created !! I see
> that it is very dangerous to announce this purely political manipulation
> and I think President Obama is going to prepare a plan of attack to deal
> ISIS, who executed two US Journalists.
> I think this is an argument that denies this theory, if not, I think we
> have to believe that Iran will attack Hizbullah which is its creation
> !!!!
> http://blog.transnational.org/category/associates-by-name/johan-galtung/
>
> http://www.disappearednews.com/2014/06/johan-galtungs-view-from-europe-world.html
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/07/obama-isis-plan_n_5779598.html
>
> 3-US Empire !:
> I think we are all involved in the disaster of our planet by our
> selfishness, dictatorship, loss of human values, fundamentalism ...
> I think we are all responsible for the safety of our planet through
> dialogue and constructive criticism, not insults and accusations towards
> each other.
>
> For this reason, I see the face of ideological and political positions I
> leave GHA and its projects.
>
> With peace and love.
>
> Ammar BANNI
>
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