When I read my post sent today, I realise that animosity could still prevent people from seeing what is said when I claimed that an orbiting body need not rotate unless it was rigid.. like as on the rim of a wheel.. Slightly misleading. I was trying to say that it is not necessarily so. The moon around the world acts the same as the rigid wheel example, in that it shows the same face, and acts like an object that was fixed to the rim of a wheel. But this is a property of the moon itself, which is not INDUCED momentarily by its orbital motion. A satellite moon could have no spin in its orbit of the earth, and in so doing would present us with one complete view of its entire surface per orbit.. Now think of the contradiction with what an observer on the world sees, compared to the reality. As the moon has one revolution spin per orbit, what we "see" is a moon not spinning.. ie stationary. In the other theoretical possible condition where the moon has no rotation spin at all as it is translated around the world , we on earth would see it spinning. It is this illusion of relative motions which has caused people here who believe only what they see to be reality, to declare that the moon is not spinning.. Science cannot be, and is not so easily fooled. On this point I want to deplore those statements which attempt to label all scientists, most of whom are concientious workers and researchers in science, as Satanic cabalisticly evil people. I have worked there with these people. If Satan existed amongst us, I never saw him or it. I would have resented, and still do resent this type of hate engendered snide judgemental even libelous slander . Such I would expect only from Satan and one of his followers, not from people who call themselves men of God. Philip.