[geocentrism] Re: rotation part 1
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:39:19 +1000
YES, Im already fully aware of ALL the previous as well as
possible objections allen
being aware of them and comprehending them are two different things.
Allen if I were to try to make a real to scale model of your plan I would have
to make the head of a pin to represent the 180 million mile diameter of your
orbit, with the camera on the edge of the pin, and place your star another
smaller pin a pinpoint light 1000 miles away on the other side of the
continent, and still its not far enough to be true, but it is far enough to
show how your camera rotating around the head of a pin will not resolve
anything. ie.. the picture produced would be unchanged rotating or
stationary..Its a matter of scale. phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:02 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] rotation part 1
I sent this 12 hours aago and still have not seen it even in the
archives...i think the internet is slowwwww....
I want to start with this which is parts 1 &2 of 12.......I
still need the PDEEMA diagram...but i will get to it latter
The basic issue before us is what if any effects should we see
given the HC construct...
I want to start by focusing attention on these two
diagrams....it demonstrates that in a Universe where everything is just
relitive motion (that if in fact all motion is just relitive) then it follows
that a translational motion/orbit of one body must produce a equivilent efect
as a spin/ orbit in some other body. The reason this must hold true for a truly
relitive universe where all motion is just relitive motion is that any external
observer will see a translation as nothing more then a spin in the opisite
direction of the translational orbit without respect for the motion since the
motion is purely relitive we can't be sure what is in "real motion" thus we
cant be sure what is spining and what is translating...in a translation one
body is spining in the opisite direction that the other body is translating
in.....you have to think and see both motions simoltaniously they my be
relitive but one is doing one thing and the other is doing somthing different
wrt any external observer.........distance is irrelevant for any and all
rotational effecst because every rotation or spin will demonstrate the effects
if a rotation if it truly exist at all. This is demonstrated by the fact that a
camera in rotation will produce the effects wrt real stars....Thus: if the
effects do not exist then either.......... ..i will leave this blank for now in
hope of some thought provoking discussion.......consider these things
carefully..
a.. From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
a.. To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
a.. Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
EUREKA!!......A translational orbit still produces a rotational
effect!...The
punch line is ....
1. the axis of the rotation shifts from the body that is being
orbited to the
center of the body in the translational orbit....
2. It reverses the effects of the rotational effects. That is
to say that a
clockwise orbit will produce counter clockwise rotational
impression on
film where if the translational orbit is clockwise then the
rotational effects
on film will be clockwise!..
The fact that the earth's has a translational orbit around the
sun cannot and
will not hide a rotation around the NCP which is offset from
the nightly NEP by
23 degrees.. YES, Im already fully aware of ALL the previous
as well as
possible objections.....i was able to isolate each and every
single
one.........I have now found the way to prove it as well as
demonstrate how it
can be accomplished in the real world ......The solution is
remarkably
"simple" but extremely hard to visualize due to the
complexities of the
kinematics........If you imagine a set of crosshairs they have
a up/ down equal
distant mark as well as a left and right equal distant
mark....The trick is
understanding that the back and fourth motion of the sun by 23
degrees annually
is nothing more then up/down deviations from that up/down
center mark.....The
key is as long as the right/ left center mark does not deviate
we can still get
our rotation around a axis that lay parallel
to a axis that is perpendicular and runs through the suns
(ecliptic
deviation/ path) since it lay perpendicular to the up/down
centerline on our
cross hairs, because it lays 23 degrees offset ..this is true
because any
rotation around the sun or ecliptic is not dependent on the
north south
deviation of the sun/ecliptic ..the rotation & it’s effects
are around a axis
that lay perpendicular to that deviation. Yes we have to have a
camera that
does not move with respect to that ecliptic deviation….I will
show but we
should already know exactly how to accomplish that… .......the
proof is quite
detailed i will lay out the fundamentals bit by bit so we don’t
get confused by
all the motions........I plan to submit some diagrams and
photos
eventually...using real stars and demonstrating exactly how it
was done...but
the key is a translational motion will still produce a rotation
on the NCP
.....The rub is, I kept trying to tell you guys that the
clue was “hidden” in that “most powerful definition of rotation
known to man”
....In fact, It would have to produce a rotational effect in
order for all of
the motions to be "equivalent"!.............. Oh, what fun I am
going to have
now.....”Destruction” and “chaos” the likes of which have not
been seen since
the Renaissance itself..& ..It won’t take me any 400 years
either!
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