[geocentrism] Re: plenum effects atmosphere?
- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:25:43 +0000 (GMT)
Dear Robert,
You are a bit of a dark horse, but you are an open-minded dark horse, that's
for sure. And a poet to boot, although that's not so sure.
As to your rude question, "What does Scripture say of the plenum's boundaries?
What is its extent? How do you read it?", I respond as follows:
The plenum, or firmament, was created on Day 2, before there was any other
physical thing, except water. In particular, there was no dry ground. The
atmosphere is therefore part of the firmament. Also, the dry land may be within
the firmament, too. In fact, it almost certainly is now, because it was raised
up significantly in parts after the Flood.
There is water surrounding the boundary of this plenum. On the surface of that
water is where I believe the third heaven starts (i.e., where God and all
angelic beings reside.)
If this reasoning is fairly sound, then the plenum must be completely
frictionless. However, there would be paths within it for the Sun, Moon,
planets and stars (just like there are channels in the ocean).
As time goes by,
I await your reply.
Neville.
Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Dr. Jones,
see RB: inserts
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> I believe that now is a good time to move this discussion on a little.
>
> We are seemingly all agreed that the Bible informs us the the
> World is fixed and does not move in any way.
RB: Geostatics I affirm today
but a year ago would have said - Nay!
> I'm not sidestepping the force issue. I'm just taking this one
> step at a time. But let me ask you something ... if the plenum is
> exerting some force on material objects, and this force is from
> east to west, then why does it not affect the atmosphere?
>
> Neville.
>
RB: Excellent Q?, Dr. Jones.
It's rude to answer a question with another, but so many of your positions
surprise me, I don't really know what to expect of your metaphysics.
So before I trigger what is potentially a long but enlightening thread, let
me be Socratic and ask your indulgence to answer the following. I promise to
respond in turn, but will understand if you choose not to pursue this issue.
What does Scripture say of the plenum's boundaries? What is its extent? How
do you read it?
Gen 1:6 And God said: Let there be a firmament made amidst the waters: and
let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made a firmament, and divided the waters that were under the
firmament, from those that were above the firmament, and it was so. DR
Pax Christi,
Robert
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