Philip, I thought you would encourage someone who gets a distinct feeling that God is listening to him when he prays, rather than trying to explain it away with endorphins? This is similar to the Moon going around "set in the firmament" (i.e., rotation of the firmament, not the Moon), which you did not seem to side with when Allen was championing that (Biblical) position. You do surprise me sometimes. Neville Yes, Neville I do even surprise myself.. lots of times... But Charity is love. And love demands sacrifice. In Charity one can do no more than desire that every man be saved. If I were to speak to you and Peter, together, (not counting all the other diverse persons) and comfort you both in your distinct feelings of communicating with God, then I would have been uncharitable to at least one of you. Your assessment of God is entirely different to that of Peter. Thus knowing just how diverse all of the opinions of man are as regards God, and given that many at one time or the other feel deep spiritual communion with their particular variation of God and His desires, it is more charitable to discourage faith on feelings that are without reason. And reason is obviously absent due to the contradictory nature of all their beliefs. I say this just as seriously to the majority of Catholics who have that nice fuzzy feeling about the Pope. I say it to myself. That makes me an arrogant self opinioniated control freak.. And with good reason! Reasoned reason. I have no feelings...that I trust..endorphins are real. .I talk to God with fear and humility, meaning I respect His superiority.. He is not one of the boys. Philip.