However, having said that even MS would not argue the fact that EMR is bent Via what they call "Gravity" Allen Allen, that was not proven. the long awaited measurement of light past a large planet, was inconclusive, yet the followers of Einstein needing this proof do accept it . They need to prove their theory that EMR is corpuscular particles, and equivalent to mass.. to avoid the need of an aether of course to explain the wave theory of propagation.. They are waves, this cannot be disproven, however much denied. They want to call it waves of energy/matter???? What happens when they get down to a single photon? (gaps in between?) Oh no, then we will have half a photon, or is it a stretched photon.. There cannot be any gaps in a wave... Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Daves To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:47 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception We can say for certain that MM, MG & SAG casued a Frequency shift which is not the same a moving or Bending light. I think trying to equiviating the two may be a problem going forward. However, having said that even MS would not argue the fact that EMR is bent Via what they call "Gravity" the difference is one of termonology and mechanics same net effect where grav is not the cause for the bending but the medium (aether) is. Grav is the "force"Vibration traversing the aether and Currents are both resulting from and perhaps some of the cause of mass in motion through the aether. But essintaily there is only a difference of terms and reasons for moving EMR not the fact that it does. Having said that, as I have already pointed out i firmly belive we are going to find the aether affects on EMR and mass are not equivilent except perhaps to the extent that E=Mc2 holds true, even then i have my doubts. Mass and EMR are two differnt states and use/ affect the aether differently.......... philip madsen <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: .Despite all the experiments of MM and Miller nobody can yet say so with certainty. ( that EMR (light) is moved by aether flow) . Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bennett To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception Then light is not EMR. RB .Despite all the experiments of MM and Miller nobody can yet say so with certainty. ( that EMR is moved by aether flow) . Philip. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 2/08/2007 2:22 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 2/08/2007 2:22 PM