[geocentrism] Re: geocentrism

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:30:24 +1000

Cut the hate filled name calling Bernie!!!!!
Philip. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernie Brauer 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:13 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: geocentrism


  Me ( Bernie ) in red

  Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



      Bernie,

      Two things regarding Phillip's conclusion:

      a) The planets go around the sun in the geocentrism model, so there is no 
conflict there. Even the Brahe Model had this worked out over 400 years ago.
      b) The heliocentricity model is one of the five essentials of the Big 
Bang Evolutionary Paradigm.
    No.
    Big bang says nothing about a dinky little Solar System, whether it is ours 
or not.

    The material in the "Solar System" would've had to have come from
    the Big Bang material or matter.
        
    Big bang says nothing about life anywhere in the Universe

    The material or matter of the Big Bang would've had to organise itself
    to become animated.
      
    , and less so about the
    evolution of life on a dinky little blue planet that we misnamed Earth (It 
ought to
    be water

    If you include the guts of the Earth, then there is probably more earth 
than water.


    ...).
      Bernie - tell me: Does the calculation of tides here on Earth (I hope you 
agree that
    we are able to perform such calculations) say anything about the fish 
caught up in
    that tide?
      I'm afraid you have to disagree with each of these scientific theories - 
not believing
    in a particular one of them does not imply that you think God did a genesis 
6000 years ago.

    Sounds better than a "Nothing" did a "Big Bang" 16 Billion Light Years ago.
    What a joke.


    "So I told the sucker, all the universe started with a
    "Big Bang" from nothing and by Mr. Nothing. Then the
    stuff inside the big bang organised itself to become
    humans and birds and water and a sun." 



    "What a sucker, what an imbes-sal, what a gulli-bull, what an ultra-maroon, 
what a nin-cow poop, what an ignoranimous!" 
    
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     I have not read the rest of your post.

       - Regner


      All of those essentials form an "alternate creation scenario" promoted by 
anti-Christ, anti-Bible Pharisaic Kabbalists. If one concludes that geocentrism 
is "unique" science based "solely on a supernatural/theological position" then 
what can one conclude about the "unique" science based "solely on a 
supernatural/theological position" of another religion which contradicts the 
Bible on every major doctrine (and,
      of course, hates Jesus and has Him boiling in crap in hell)?  Instead of 
starting with the geo/helio controversy--the truth of which is indispensable to 
both theological positions--perhaps we should start with the the Religions and 
their Holy Books and the God/g'd which is behind these theological positions.  
When that is done--usisng only facts and excluding
      assumptions based upon other assumptions...along with the willfully 
deceptive "secular" science claim...and certifiably fraudulent use of virtual 
reality technology--one is faced squarely with which religion and which God/g'd 
one trusts. And, oh yes, it is useful to note the admitted 
      theological position of the Pharisee Kabbalists
      is that Satan is their g'd.
      The heliocentricity keystone of the Kabbalilst Kosmos is pure illusion in 
defiance of all observational evidence; e.g.:
      http://www.fixedearth.com/Size_andStructure%20Part%20IV.htm   Is this 
"science" ?
      http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm

      Marshall

      philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
        Geocentrism as a science.  

        I know you all have noted my often presented defense of main stream 
science, not that I want to debunk geocentrism, but to be just plain fair.

        Perhaps it needs to be said outright...

        I have just spent several minutes looking at the side by side 
animations (GWW.) of the daily orbits of the solar system from both the  
geocentric and heliocentric perspective.  

        It cannot be denied when considering all the natural motions of the 
planets around the central sun, as shown in both systems, that to claim an 
unmoving and central earth is very very unique, and goes against the natural 
order presented by the rest of the cosmos. Indeed against our own experimental 
evidence in earth bound laboratories. 

        Its unfair to say otherwise..  Its going to require unique science to 
prove our claim, which we base solely on a supernatural/theological position. 

        Philip. 





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