Jack L Ah! Yes -- Pascal's defence. But if you pick the wrong guru, you're still lost as any Muslim will tell you. As will the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Mormons, the Baptists the Catholics etc etc etc. I think the Buddhists and the Hindus have the better idea -- if you get it wrong, you have enough extensions to try again. I still think that moral behaviour would win the day for an atheist but immorality would condemn a Believer. Neville J You left out Coventry and Hitler . Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 29 April, 2008 12:27:26 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: expelled I found the letter that Paul included in his posting amusing ... and true. The biggest enemy for the Creationist probably is indeed the black book. Experiencing pain for eternity? Do you worship the Devil? Even the men, women, children and animals of Dresden and Hamburg didn't have to endure that. Is The Almighty an infinitely greater monster than Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin and Eisenhower put together? Neville. -----Original Message----- From: jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:50:52 +0100 Philip The concept that pain, in varying severity, will be experienced for eternity is beyond our comprehension just living for eternity in a place that is perfect - another incomprehensible concept. Jack philip madsen wrote: If I'm wrong I won't be able to regret it, but if you are then you will. No need to respond. Regards Jack Isn't that just so sad and so true.. And you would think a scientist would know what eternity is , and burning forever in it... No escape clause.. Free Online Photosharing - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail