Exactly what historical records are you referring to? ..The Bible is the definitive historical record for the very events in question here and it specifically outlines Nails.. ? The official extant governmental ?records? (historical records of the times) are far from "complete" but if you are insistent on their sole and or preeminent authority for such maters ??.. then the Slaughter of the innocents (Matthew 2:16-18) never took place ??.? philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used? Based upon historical records of the times.. perhaps? Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Daves To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: crucifixion If your going to appeal to what scripture states then it must have been the hands, not wrist. The two are not one and the same. Further, there is no reason for it not to have been in the literal, ordinary,comon everyday meaning and reading of "the hands & feet". .....Dispite all the posible ways they could and did crufiy folk, why could it not posibly have been just as it was described in the text with no additional comentary in Jesus case?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used? philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, I will find the medical detail soon.. Meanwhile where in the bible does it say rope was used. or that it was in the palm... I ask this despite Mel Gibsons depictation. Was it not an unusual method of the time that nails were used? Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:06 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Telekinesis - Psychokinesis Philip, Just one, small comment. You said that, "the nails had to be further up near the wrist." That is not true, because the forearm would be bound to the beam with rope at the wrist location. The nail can then be positioned exactly where the Bible says. Indeed, there are far too many small bones in the wrist for several of them not to have been shattered by the nail. Neville. -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:41:03 +1000 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Telekinesis - Psychokinesis ... --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 10/07/2007 5:44 PM --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 10/07/2007 5:44 PM