Following on from an earlier discussion with Robert Bennett over the Aspden effect, I have not had the opportunity of testing with a capacitor. But however, I have since found more information concerning the experiment using a flywheel, exerpt here below, which has given me incentive to follow Roberts suggestion of testing the mechanical side of Aspdens aether Theory.. If this effect can be confirmed then it opens up a whole new area of investigation, particularly as this effect claims to be nondirectional, As here shown....Philip. From Aspden: with my comments added in blue ... Imagine an electric machine having no electrical input itself and which, when started on no load by a drive motor and brought up to speed (3250 rpm), thereafter runs steadily at that speed with the motor drawing a little extra input power with a time delay rate of about two minutes. The machine rotor has a mass of 800 gm and at that speed its kinetic energy together with that of the drive motor is no more than 15 joules, contrasting with the excess energy of 300 joules needed to satisfy the anomalous power surge [to spin up from rest]. Imagine further that when the motor, after running five minutes or more, is switched off and the machine is stopped, you can restart it in the same or opposite direction and find that it now has a memory in the sense that it will not now ask for that 300 joules of excess input. 30 joules will suffice provided that the time lapse between starting and restarting is no more than a minute or so. This is as Robert has stated . Aspden: This is not a transient heating phenomenon. At all times the bearing housings feel cool and any heating in the drive motor would imply an increase of resistance and a build-up of power to a higher steady state condition. The experimental evidence is that there is something spinning of an ethereal nature coextensive with the machine rotor. That 'something' has an effective mass density 20 times that of the rotor, but it is something that can spin independently and take several minutes to decay, whereas the motor comes to rest in a few seconds. " I find this self contradictory if we are assuming an aether mass density, because it has been asserted that the forces apply after start up to a restart in either direction. I get the impression that the high speed rotation of the mass might scatter the aether (like centrifugal pressure) away from the rotating matter, leaving behind an aether vacuum which takes time to come back to normal. If the flywheel is restarted quickly enoug in this "vacuum" of low aether, the lower aetheric resistance , the possible cause of inertia , is the reason for the lower power requirement .. Phil. Aspden; Two machines of different rotor size and composition reveal the phenomenon and tests indicate variations with time of day and compass orientation of the spin axis. One machine, the one incorporating weaker magnets, showed evidence of gaining strength magnetically, as the test were repeated over several days." All of this indicates the possible effects due to the aether rotation (and the cosmos) with respect to the world, as regards orientation, plus magnetic effects, which could be resulting from the induced "vacuum" I mentioned above. Consider: If the aether "density" is reduced in the area of a rotating (or any moving) mass, relative to each other, then this would also modify magnetic and electrical fields, which we have always believed needed the medium of the aether to exist or in the case of EMR propagate. Even gravity comes under fascinating scrutiny. [it would be interesting to look at a magnetic field distribution comparison between a rotating and motionless non magnetic flywheel] From this, if Aspdens tests were accurate, and I would need to confirm these, then indeed I would have to come on side with Robert, as regards the aetheric speed, or "density" being quite varied between a height above the earth and down into below its surface. Quite in conformity with Millers experience. Please note that from our geocentric perspective, it is a stationary earth with a rotating aether/cosmos around it. The effects Aspden describes would be the same as if the HC system was true and the earth was the flywheel. Aspden: I will soon be reporting in detail on these findings, after further work and evaluation of the implications. The phenomenon was something I should have been prepared for, having regard to my years of theorizing, but this discovery was unexpected as it has crept in loud and clear in a project aimed at testing a motor principle totally unrelated to 'vacuum spin'. It has appeared obtrusively and I do not yet know whether, in adapting to its presence, it can serve in improving machine performance or become detrimental." I have found no follow up here. So its up to us to confirm his findings.. If you take note of his figures, he is in effect saying that a spinning flywheel takes only 10% of the energy to maintain its speed and inertia of that which is taken out to supply power to a load. This to me this contravenes physics, and as far as I know contrary what happens in practise. Except, and this has to be accounted for, another researcher , Carl Tilley, proposed that this phenomenon only occurred when the rotating mass included or used in some way a permanent magnet. Notice tha Aspden in the first paragraph says, "Imagine an electric machine having no electrical input itself and which, when started on no load by a drive motor " It could be possible that this machine is a generator that has a permanent magnetic rotating field.. Nothing is said here... Philip.