[geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:31:16 +1000
Allen, with all that outburst, you did not answer the main point of Regners
that I understood.
Eh, - and how would you measure a constant velocity (is part of your "any
motion")
with an accelerometer or a gyroscope, for that matter?
- Regner
Philip.
PS What is meant by absolute motion? I would rather discuss the absence of ANY
motion.. Would you call that Absolute stillness?
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:18 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs
Regner,
Laser Gyroscopes can measure both ordination as well as acceleration...You
really should read up on MM MG and the sagnac effect and a few others. Those
experiments were performed to do just that to see if we could and then others
later to test all of the hair brain ideas out there why it was actually
something other then what they showed.???? We do it all the time in ICBMs &
Cruise missiles and GPS Also suggest you ref Ron Hatch....he developed the
"Hatch filter" for all GPS systems (so they would stay in time with each other)
.... ..as for inertial ref frames, there is never been any demonstration that
such monsters even exist except in theory that demands them in order to assault
the very thing that the experiments show...and what is in question Here. Light
is not isotropic and there is such a thing as absolute motion with respect to
whatever medium(s) that light traverses ........ Absolute motion was and is the
whole point of MM MG , saganac and others.............to prove or disprove the
assertion that absolute motion can be measured. They found plenty of motion
just not the motion they expected....sidereal but no orbital motion
..ummmmm......so Eienstein invented STR to Explain it all.....but that was
shown false later by saganc in 1913...as well as others......Your whole
position is built on a circular fallacy of theories that make your assertions
but our assertions are the only thing that demand the theory in the first place
...whatʼs worse everything else is just chalked up to "Anomalies"......funny
all those observations and experimentations make perfect coherent sense with a
stationary earth..ummmmm................. Absolute motion can be detected, STR
asserts that it cannot.............. but 1. it is entirely inconsistent with
all the observations with electrodynamics... 2. it has not only never been
shown true but has at every turn shown to be false.....
Allen
----- Original Message ----
From: Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:56:05 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs
Allen Daves wrote:
It is one kind...sure..but not the only kind.... laser gyroscopes&
accelerometers.....are my favorites.....they need no ref external of them selvs
to show motion any motion free fall or not in any grav field....
Sorry, Allen, but quantum or not, a gyroscope measures change of orientation
and accelerometers measure accelerations - those accelerations can only be
with
respect to an inertial frame. Both a free-floating, constant (but any)
velocity frame
and one free-falling in a gravitational field are inertial frames. That has
been
confirmed by observations over and over again. Ask the crew on the
International
Space Station, for example.
Eh, - and how would you measure a constant velocity (is part of your "any
motion")
with an accelerometer or a gyroscope, for that matter?
- Regner
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:21:11 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs
Allen D
ref your post -- allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wed Jan 30 18:55:19 2008
Does this meet your definition of a quantem accelerometer?
Quantum accelerometer -
Title:Quantum tunneling cantilever accelerometer Document Type and
Number:United States Patent 4638669 Link to this
page:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4638669.html
Paul D
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