Paul, You and folk like you don't have a clue what the difference is between humility, hubris and or plain stupidity is.... Further, you already have all the information you need to resolve your "demonstration"..which may or may not be a demonstration depending on how much you know that the rest of us do not know today?!......However, you have and do choose to go out of your way to avoid/ ignore it in favor of what you can only imagine ....If you cant see it, that is your problem. If you are comfortable using that stupidity then I'm comfortable seeing you be stupid......... arrogance is the distinct characteristic of you positions...."you think it could be, therefore it is" never mind what is actually seen or demonstrated or even logical…..your “information” you provided is rubbish Paul pure rubbish sorry you feel so confident in it, and I’m sorry you can’t see it but then again you can't convince a fool about reality either so there you go....if you haves something to say or something to demonstrate ...well everyone is waiting... ..if you don’t or cant demonstrate.....Im afraid the empty words about the existence of "information" you have provided that you feel is a "demonstration" (but not really a "demonstration" only your understaning of something that the rest of us do not) …… is silly, stupid and oh yea.....arrogant…….the absence of humility and certainly any wisdom....It is a little late for you to grow up opr even wake up.....so my hope for you is ...well...not very hopefull I'm afraid... but you have no one to blame but yourself... --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Uranus To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:07 PM Allen D You already have in your possession the information you need to resolve your '... demonstration ...' conundrum. A touch of humility might help you find it but hubris will work to keep it hidden. Paul D Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look.