Dear Philip, I don't advise swearing to God about anything especially that which aint! Now that is very interesting exercise, what would be observed from the moon in a geocentric model? Don't get involved in this one Regner, there are other more important points yet for you to consider. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism list Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? SNIP Now there is a thought what star trail would you get if you had a camera on the north pole of the moon, doing its alleged 28 day spin. Philip