[geocentrism] Re: Three days and three nights
- From: "Robert Bennett" <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:00:07 -0400
John 14:28 ....I go to the Father: for the Father is greater than I.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
To the logician Christ speaks here a manifest contradiction, a violation of
the trichotomy axiom. How can the Father be both greater and equal to Him?
To those blessed with the gift of faith these words confirm the mystery of
the Incarnation: Christ is both true God and true man.
The tools of exegesis are both faith and reason. Like eagle's wings, without
both of them, we cannot soar to the knowledge of His truth - the salvific
truth that shall make us free.
Verily,
Robert
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> [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip
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> Ouch.! and Allen says the word is simple and straight forward to
> understand.
> Col. 2:16 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
> drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
> sabbath days:
>
> That language is way above my head. I havn't a clue what it
> means, yet I have to ask, who among men can claim the Divine
> right to preach it to me. Is meat all food or is it beef. Is
> drink all liquid or only booze. ?? I could think of harder
> things to understand in the Bible. Allen you have not responded
> to how you approach 2Peter 3 -16
> 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things;
> in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that
> are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other
> scriptures, unto their own destruction. KJV
>
> Phil.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Felland
> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:07 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Three days and three nights
>
>
> My point would be that we do not have scripture for the Gregorian
> calendar that most follow today.
>
> Col. 2:16 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
> drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
> sabbath days:
>
> It seems that if I want to seek out a Biblical Calendar and
> walk in that "narrow path," at least it should be allowed and not judged.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> Allen Daves wrote:
>
> >If you want to bring it to an end I well accept that but your
> reasoning is your own not scripture. Don?t think beyond what is
> written.... Goes for Calendar creation, new moons or anything
> else. I am at a loss for why you find that so hard to understand.
> My point in the new moon posting was if you don?t have scripture
> leave it alone... don?t create what is not there.
> >
> >Allen
> >
> >
> >"Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:In your last
> posting, you asked what the references were. Now you have been
> provided with them, your only response seems to be "so?" If it's
> not spelt out for us, then we can't ever know? Is this being
> "created in God's image?" Is this "reason[ing] together?"
> >
> >Next time you're in an aeroplane, I hope that the Captain has
> every single, possible, conceivable situation clearly spelt out
> for him in the manual, because otherwise he won't be able to
> think for himself, right?
> >
> >You position cannot be maintained, Allen. If it could, then
> everybody on the World could simply READ the Bible every night.
> >
> >You have also avoided the INSTRUCTIONS given you clearly in
> Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, for example.
> >
> >I think that this discussion has reached a stage where a
> conclusion can be draw. Philip and I have tried to reason with
> you. Does anyone else care to comment before I draw a line under it?
> >
> >Neville.
> >
> >Allen Daves wrote:
> >1 Sam. 20:5 5. And "David said unto Jonathan, Behold, to
> morrow is the new moon,"
> >
> >1 Sam. 20:18. Then "Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the
> new moon:" and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty.
> >
> >David and Jonathan both agree that tomorrow is the new moon..So?
> >
> >1 Sam. 20:24. So David hid himself in the field: and when the
> new moon was come, the king sat him down to eat meat.
> >
> >DAVID hid untill the new moon ??.so?
> >
> >2 Ki. 4:23 23. And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him "to
> day"? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall
> be well. Does cripture difinne What day this is it only says that
> that day is not the new moon. ?.don?t read into it.
> >
> >Ps. 81:3. Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time
> appointed, on our solemn feast day. Isa. 66: 23. And it shall
> come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one
> sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me,
> saith the Lord.
> >
> >Eze. 46:1 Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court
> that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days;
> but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new
> moon it shall be opened.
> >
> >Eze. 46:6 And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young
> bullock without blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be
> without blemish.
> >
> >Amos 8:5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may
> sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making
> the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the
> balances by deceit?
> >
> >Col. 2:16 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
> drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
> sabbath days:
> >
> >
> >
> >There is Something called and recognized as a new moon but
> what exactly that is not specified here?? so what is the
> difficulty don?t read into anything in to it. All you know is
> that there is such a thing a new moon but with out scripture to
> tell you anything other than that, You cannot make statements or
> calendars with any more detailed other than what is provided. If
> it is not provided don?t try to "MAKE IT". I don?t understand why
> this is difficult. If text doesn?t provide every little detail
> then you must be satisfied with what it does state not speculate
> about what it is not saying. Don?t think beyond what is written.
> >
> >Allen
> >
> >
> >"Dr. Neville Jones" wrote:1 Sam. 20:5
> >1 Sam. 20:18
> >1 Sam. 20:24
> >2 Ki. 4:23
> >Ps. 81:3
> >Isa. 66:23
> >Eze. 46:1
> >Eze. 46:6
> >Amos 8:5
> >Col. 2:16
> >
> >So, again I ask you, Allen, is it a "new" moon or isn't it?
> >
> >Neville.
> >
> >Allen Daves wrote:
> >I guess I missed that posting. What are the references for
> this? What scriptures are we talking about?..I know this if it
> calls it a new moon then it is a new moon. If it does not
> specifically call it a new moon then you shouldn't read into it.
> You take it exactly what all the scriptures say about that moon
> the way it says it. If scripture does not specify how would I or
> anyone for that mater know? And what proof could you offer
> anyway? Something?s are just not given and It will not contradict
> itself if you don't force meaning on it.
> >
> >Allen
> >
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