[geocentrism] Re: Thanks for reading

  • From: Mike <mboyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:52:57 +0100

Dr Neville Jones wrote:
 > I am not aware of any claim that the "Big Bang" singularity must have
 > originally been swirling, but I think what Gary is referring to is
 > the nebular hypothesis relating to the origin of the so-called,
 > "solar system."

Well Gary certainly claimed it:

 > was swirling and then the explosion caused all of the matter to swirl
 > in the same direction as the original Big Bang
 > ...
 > Everything should have retained the same angular direction of spin


And so does the first five google hits of 'conservation angular momentum 
"big bang" ' (excluding the first hit which is a dictionary).


http://www.alumni.ca/~khak4a0/problems.html

"To solve this, advocates of the Big Bang Theory claim that the 
singularity that blew up in a sudden big bang was spinning before it 
exploded
...
The problem is Venus, Uranus, and Pluto are spinning backwards"


http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/bigbang.html

"This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the 
Universe and everything in it
....
If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled 
from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as 
the dot they exploded from."


http://www.angelfire.com/nt/fairytales/coam.html

"According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny 
spinning object
...
if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same 
direction."


http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE260_1.html

"If the spin of planets, galaxies, etc., came from the fact that the big 
bang matter was spinning when it blew up, then the conservation of 
angular momentum demands that all planets be spinning in the same 
direction."

[ this is quoted as a claim of creatonists and then refuted  ]


http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Retrograde_motion_of_planets_disproves_the_Big_Bang

"If the spin of planets, galaxies, etc., came from the fact that the Big 
Bang matter was spinning when it blew up, then the conservation of 
angular momentum demands that all planets be spinning in the same 
direction."


You will note if you google that virtually every hit is a creationist 
claim or a refutation of a creatioinist claim.  The issue has never 
arisen within the circles of convential physics.  It is a strawman, a 
creationist claim that convential physics claims something that they do not.

It is so easy to see how wrong this claim is (and the claim that all the 
planets must be spinning in the same direction from the nebula 
hypothesis of the solar system) simply by considering the westward top 
spin lob I referred to earlier.

Conservation of angular momentum does not mean everything must spin the 
same way.

Regards,
Mike.


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