Mike, hello. If you don't understand then perhaps I have misunderstood the problem. Still, what I have always thought the problem was, was that in the Big Bang the original point of matter (which now I understand has been reduced so much it is nothing, a vacuum) was swirling and then the explosion caused all of the matter to swirl in the same direction as the original Big Bang point of matter had been. That everything was expelled out and away from this "center" meant nothing as far as the direction of spin (and rate of spin, too?) of the matter expelled. Everything should have retained the same angular direction of spin is what I always understood. The fact that some planets in our own system do not spin in the same direction implies that there is something amiss with the theory of CAM. This is the problem as I recall hearing it. Is that clearer? Am I in error? Or is this still a problem? If it is, then I repeat my original question, does this mean that the acentrists and geocentrists are yet on equal ground as far as the origins of the universe? Sincerely, Gary Shelton