[geocentrism] Re: Steven's points

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:57:00 +1000

Ok all.  I have just come off the phone with the local Observatory at 
Maidenwell Qld.

I told him of our problem as regards what is observed. He replied that it was 
right up his alley, and he was working on star trails..  

"Good."  I said, "then you agree that an observer rotating with the earth in 24 
hours at the equator will see the N or S polar star prescribe a circle/"  

"Yes of course" he replies, even giving me both Northern and souther examples. 
. 

"Well then why doesn't this same observer see this same star prescribe an even 
greater circle over a period of observation for one year?" 

"Because it doesn't. It will stay in that same part of the sky"  he replied 
quite emphatically.  

"Why not?" The heliocentrist in me was actually quite surprised. 

"Quite simple. The earth is tilted at that part of the sky. The tilt is 
maintained toward that part of the sky throughout the orbit around the sun, and 
so the star always appears in the same spot." 

"Ok!" I was already confirmed in what MS observed, that Steven was citing the 
officially accepted observation, but I wanted to now stir his education in 
geometry.

 "You are saying that if the observer moves over a base line equal to the 
diameter of the earth the apex of the triangle with that star will appear to 
prescribe a circle. Yet if the same observer moves over a base line equal to 
the diameter of the earths orbit, over a year,  the apex of the triangle with 
the same star will not change its position at all." 

"thats right." 

He didn't seem to understand my simple geometrical example..  If my geometry 
was wrong, then he should have been able to expose the error of my reasoning.. 
Yet he went to the trouble to explain that the observer on the equator during 
our daily rotation will see a greater deviation than one closer to the poles. 

"what's it all about/"  It sounded like he expected to hear from a geocentrist, 
but I held my peace. I had no audience.. LOL

 I thanked him and hung up in disgust, 

Philip. 





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