I agree with your precision on purgatory; now... since the soul can suffer (in purgatory) without the flesh, can't we conclude that the soul is not a pure spirit ?
Christus Imperat, Marc Veilleux
From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Solar heat Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:52:26 +1000Correction Marc.. whilst the body is corrupted to dust, the soul is purified by fire, Purgatory, "pay back the last farthing..." or suffers in Hell , till the ressurrection, when the new body and soul combine and burn as a unit. hmmmm... What say you?Thanks for the polar weather report.. Now I will look back at nasa to see if it is the south pole of the sun that is cooler.Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 7:19 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Solar heat Phil,according to what I read recently, on Earth the antartic (south pole) is notmelting as much as it is in the artic (north pole).About Hell and spirit, you seem to be mistaken: man is not and will never be a pure Spirit as God. Man will always have a body and soul; but it is the Spirit that gives (real) life to the soul and body. It seems to me that the soul is not pure spirit but somehow a medium between the Spirit and the body (flesh). On Judgment day, it will be the resurrection of the body and soul, both incorruptible. The spirit cannot die nor resurrect. So we can assumethat after the resurrection everybody will feel the heat, cold, pain,etc...in Hell, probably not the way we sense it now, but certainly in a wayor the other. Marc V >From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Solar heat >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:58:15 +1000 > >OK Marc.. I get what you are saying. > >"Allright then, but how do you explain that the heat goes more in one >direction of the Sun than in the other ? " > >One pole of the sun is cooler than the other. That's the > >surprising> > >conclusion just announced by scientists who have been analyzing data> >from > > >the ESA-NASA Ulysses spacecraft. > >So you raise the good point.. but my joke was all about it not being >convection, at least not normal convection. > >Actually even if the NASA data was not suspect, there are all sorts of >influences, gravity not the least, which would explain the polar>difference. Did I not see somewhere that Mars polar ice caps also differ in>size.. what about earth? >>Not to worry... Lets wonder where Hell is, what sort of fire or heat it >contains, that can torture spiritual souls... it does not seem to me that>normal nuclear or chemical fire of the sun or the earths interior would >hurt a spirit. > >Philip. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:56 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Solar heat > > > Allright then, but how do you explain that the heat goes more in one > direction of the Sun than in the other ? It would be interesting to >find > out if the same applies for the planets. > Marc V > > From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Subject: [geocentrism] subjective terms > >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:33:03 +1000 > > > > > > > > > >> > Very simple Phil, in an a-centric universe there are no up and down,> >while> > in a geostatic universe,it seems to me that anything under (or south>of) > >the> > ecliptic is down and anything over (or north of) the ecliptic is up!> > Christus Imperat, > > Marc Veilleux > > > > I thought that was> > European elitism, that you think you is on top of the world and we>is > >down under...> > We are told that Paradise, supposedly the Garden of Eden, and where > >Enoch and Elias still not dead abode, still exists but is hidden from>our > >sensors.. Now where it is, could be the top of the world!.. But >seriously,> >up or down, arn't these subjective terms, having no objective reality>in > >space? > > > > Phil > > > > >From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Reply-To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Subject: [geocentrism] Re: NASA Science > > >Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:45:50 +1000 > > >> > >Please explain Marc.. I seem to miss the point of my own joke..> >Philip. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:22 AM > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: NASA Science > > > > > > > > > Philip,> > > This (see below) is an observation that infirm (i.e. contradict)> > >a-centrism! > > > Marc V. > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > > > De : philip madsen > > > À : geocentrism list > > > Envoyé : 21 février 2007 01:44 > > > Objet : [geocentrism] NASA Science > > > > > > > > > NASA Science News for February 20, 2007 > > > One pole of the sun is cooler than the other. That's the > >surprising > > >conclusion just announced by scientists who have been analyzing >data > >from > > >the ESA-NASA Ulysses spacecraft. > > > > > > Silly moos, heat rises.. of course the bottom pole will be > >cooler... > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release Date:> > >21/02/2007 3:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: > >23/02/2007 1:26 PM > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: >23/02/2007 1:26 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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