Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: You miss the point. No, Nick has not missed the point at all. It is you who cannot see the point. You construe scriptures to make them appear to you to be consistent. In doing that, you apply your own unique brand of reasoning. You then deny that you have used any reasoning, because the scriptures are self consistent. In the same way, you support Saul by quoting extensively from his epistles. Never do you consider that you could be wrong. You cannot see the circular nature of your position. There is only one anchor. Only one certainty. Everything else must tie in with that. If it contradicts it, then it has been thrown in by the devil to mislead those that are not looking for the anchor. Neville. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos