I think Neville is outfoxing you Nick. I am watching with great Interest. I do see a semantic problem developing. You put a very mute point regarding belief to maintain a sinful life style , a la divorce. My own daughter is into her third living Husband. Imagine the traumatic experience it would be for her to EVER admit to the Catholic Church ... given the new "happiness" she now endures, due I would presume more to her having learned the prudence of keeping her mouth shut, rather than it being due to the will of any "loving Jesus". Such a state of mind is very difficult to "re-indoctrinate", which after all is what we are all about. Indoctrination, the true and the false... Grace or gratification. By the way how were you nick named Nick? No association with "Old Nick" I am sure, but .....we canna be too careful. Phil. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus Nick, My "man-made structreless religion"? If it has no man-made structure (and notice that, by implication, your are conceding that the Roman Catholic Church is a man-made structure), then how can it be man-made? To illustrate, if I have not built a garden shed, then how could the non-existent garden shed have been built by me? Well, I'm certainly glad that everything is now clear to you, although I am a little puzzled as to why you are then asking me the same question that I have already told you I cannot answer. Neville. "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, Yes. Exactly. Perfectly clear. Remove the manmade structure from all of these religions (including your manmade structureless religion). What you will then have left is the only true God-made religion, i.e. the infallible Catholic Church. Then we will "suddenly" "all be in accord"-------not only with each other, but also with God. Thank you for clarifying the problem. Regards, Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos