[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
- From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Thank you for your opinions. Of course, that's all they are. Since you are
fallible, you are capable of being wrong on pretty much everything you profess.
You really don't know for sure, do you. Doesn't this line of reasoning apply
to yourself?
So, I'm letting you in on something. Christ established the Catholic Church
and He assured it that the successors to St. Peter would be infallible when
speaking to the whole Church on matters of faith and morals. Christ did not
establish the catholic church, he established his church and no-where can you
demonstarte this promise of infallibility of popes by christ's words.This same
infallible Pope, in passing down Christ's teachings, has proclaimed infallibly
that there is no salvation for those outside of the Catholic Church. This
proclamation by itsself proves you wrong
You can ignore all of this and, as they say, be fat, dumb and happy in your
uninformed, fallible beliefs. I am stunned by your arrogance and judgement. Or
you can with an open and honest truth seeking heart and mind check out the
actual claims made by the Catholic Church, with a willingness to go where the
truth actually leads you. I have and I do, and so far have rejected it. It's
your call. All I can do is point out something you are clearly oblivious to.
Are you reading my mind or using a crystal ball? But realize, when you actually
do face Christ upon your death, and He tells you the same thing I've just told
you, you won't have the excuse of saying you had no way of knowing. You have
yet to tell me anything or give me any reason to change my mind on this subject
other than your own opinion. Which, by the way, is the same standard by which
you condem me. I do not condem you for being a catholic christian. I assume you
profess faith in Jesus Christ to save your soul. Or
do you
profess proper participation in your church and correct adherance to the
popes' pronouncments to save you? One is salvation by the grace of god and the
other is salvation by works. I am dependant on Jesus. What are you dependant
on?
Why don't you practice what you preached to me: Pray to God in Jesus' name and
ask for guidance in this area. Then read your bible, by yourself, just you and
God and his word. The experience will either challenge your beliefs or
strengthen them.
Nick, all my questions above are retorical - no need to respond unless you
must. I don't really wish to continue this debate. I am certainly not learning
anything about geocentrism here.
To everyone else: I appologize. Here I am in the middle of one of those
Christian/Catholic arguements that have no place on this forum. To make it
worse, I even complained when others did it before me. Sorry everyone.
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