[geocentrism] Re: Response to Geocentric 2-pager

  • From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:11:55 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Bernie...The idea of water down a drain due to rotataion is a urban myth 
even by MS standards.....so surely a scientist would not have posted 
that..........

Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:    Allen,
   
  I don't keep track of who I send to, but it can't be a scientist so it
  was probably a journalist or owner of a website.
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  "An urban legend or urban myth is similar to a modern folklore consisting of 
stories thought to be factual by those circulating them. The term is often used 
to mean something akin to an "apocryphal story". Urban legends are not 
necessarily untrue, but they are often distorted, exaggerated, or 
sensationalized over time. Despite the name, a typical urban legend does not 
necessarily originate in an urban setting.
  The term is used to differentiate modern legend from traditional folklore in 
preindustrial times.
  Urban legends are sometimes repeated in news stories and, in recent years, 
distributed by e-mail. People frequently allege that such tales happened to a 
"friend of a friend"?so often, in fact, that "friend of a friend", or "FOAF", 
has become a commonly used term when recounting this type of story.
  The urban legend phenomenon is well-known in other languages. In the 
Netherlands, for example, a tale about monkey meat gave rise to the term 
"broodje aap verhalen" (i.e., monkey sandwich stories).
  Some urban legends have passed through the years, with only minor changes to 
suit regional variations. One example as such is the story of a woman killed by 
spiders nesting in her elaborate hairdo. More recent legends tend to reflect 
modern circumstances, like the story of people ambushed, anesthetized, and 
waking up minus one kidney, which was surgically removed for transplantation. "
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  Kind Regards,
  Bernie
  

Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Who is this guy...?...This guy is repeating "Urban myths" as proof for earth 
spining...LOL


Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:     Qd wrote:
  Hello Bernie,

I am sorry that you are so badly misinformed
and misguided and lacking of understanding of science.

1. The logic and preponderance of scientific evidence in support of a moving
Earth is SO enormous that to believe otherwise is simply to lack knowledge
or understanding of that evidence.  I am sorry, but to believe the Earth is
not moving is about as ridiculous as believing the Earth is flat.  Of course,
there is also a "Flat Earth Society," isn't there?  I guess some people will
never understand experimentation within the framework of the scientific method.

2. Simple experiment you can do at home to demonstrate that the Earth rotates:
   i) Drain bathtub (or sink, or any basin of water with a relatively flat
bottom).
  ii) Observe that the water eventually circulates in a counter-clockwise
direction in the northern hemisphere, and in a clockwise direction in the
southern hemisphere.  In fact the propensity for this circulatory flow
gets greater as you get closer to the Earth's poles.
   Explanation: the Earth rotates.    This little demonstration is not a proof, 
but it is certainly compelling
evidence that you can see everyday.
   More sophisticated demonstration of the same principle: a Focault pendulum.
If the Earth didn't rotate, you could tell with this pendulum.  Such pendulums
all over the world show unambiguously that the Earth does rotate.  In fact
they can measure the rate of rotation.  Guess what rate they all show?
You don't need comparisons with celestial objects to show that the Earth is
rotating.

3. Your email stated, "The Bible says The Earth is NOT Moving and cannot
be moved. What'll it be folks? False science as the source of absolute
truth... or God's Word?"
   Point number 1: The vast preponderance of scientific evidence in support of
a moving Earth is not false.
   Point number 2: Let's assume that God exists.  On what basis do you
accept so unquestionably that the bible is God's word?  Who says it is??
Your parents?  Your priest?  Just because you've been taught by your priest
and your parents (perhaps) that the bible is God's word, and just because
you believe it is, does that make such a claim an "absolute truth"?  To me,
it doesn't.  No offense, but the body of scientific evidence in support
of a moving earth is far more convincing to me than the argument that the
bible is the word of God just because some people believe it is.  How about
this hypothesis: the bible does not contain the word of God, but rather
contains the word of men.  I challenge you to prove that hypothesis wrong.
(From my perspective, that hypothesis would explain an awful lot.)

Be well (and, I hope, better informed...).
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