Yes I did - seeing is believing. There was no point in me giving any others because, as I have said previously, I get my information from others just as you and Regner do. Is that OK? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes? Jack L Yes -- me again! I don't know if anyone has kept count but my recollection is that the total count of formal points proposed by all parties can't exceed about a dozen and I think it's less. eg Jack, I don't recall a single point from you. Am I correct? Paul D