[geocentrism] Re: RELIGION IN SCIENCE.

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:32:10 +1000

I have much to support my case already presented I was unaware of at the time. 
Yet this is my pick as it is conclusive on the matter of science being a small 
limited part of philosophy..  In fact it hardle get a mention in the 

[edit] Branches of philosophy
To give an exhaustive list of the main divisions of philosophy is difficult 
because various topics have been studied by philosophers at various times. 
Ethics, metaphysics, epistemology, and logic are usually included. Other topics 
include politics, aesthetics, and religion. In addition, most academic subjects 
have a philosophy, for example the philosophy of science, the philosophy of 
mathematics, and the philosophy of history.

Metaphysics was first studied systematically by Aristotle. He did not use that 
term; the term emerged because in later editions of Aristotle's works the book 
on what is now called metaphysics came after Aristotle's study of physics. He 
calls the subject "first philosophy" (or sometimes just "wisdom"), and says it 
is the subject that deals with "first causes and the principles of things".[8] 
The modern meaning of the term is any inquiry dealing with the ultimate nature 
of what exists. "What's out there?" is a common way of summarizing the nature 
of metaphysical questions.

Epistemology is concerned with the nature and scope of knowledge, and whether 
knowledge is possible. "How do you know?" is the canonical epistemic question.

Ethics, or 'moral philosophy', is concerned with questions of how agents ought 
to act. Plato's early dialogues constitute a search for definitions of virtue. 
Metaethics is the study of whether ethical value judgments can be objective at 
all. Ethics can also be conducted within a religious context. If the other two 
branches so far ask "What is out there?" and "How do you know?", then Ethics 
asks "What should we do about it?" Ethics questions are either concerned 
directly with actions (normative ethics), or concerned with Good and Evil in 
general (metaethics).

Logic has two broad divisions: mathematical logic (formerly symbolic logic) and 
philosophy of logic

NOW  Science As such, the scientific method cannot deduce anything about the 
realm of reality that is beyond what is observable by existing or theoretical 
means.[14] When a manifestation of our reality previously considered 
supernatural is understood in the terms of causes and consequences, it acquires 
a scientific explanation.[15]

Philosophy is the discipline concerned with questions of how one should live 
(ethics); what sorts of things exist (metaphysics); the nature of knowledge 
(epistemology); and the principles of reasoning (logic).[1][2] The word is of 
Ancient Greek origin: φιλοσοφία (philosophía), meaning "love of knowledge", 
"love of wisdom".[3][4][5]

This is an excellent article covering most of what I wanted to say...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy  and from 

Science .  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is the effort to 
understand, or to understand better, how the physical world works, with 
observable evidence as the basis of that understanding. It is done through 
observation of phenomena, and/or through experimentation that tries to simulate 
events under controlled conditions.

and the philosophy of science, I chose this,

The philosophy of science seeks to understand the nature and justification of 
scientific knowledge. It has proven difficult to provide a definitive account 
of the scientific method that can decisively serve to distinguish science from 
non-science. Thus there are legitimate arguments about exactly where the 
borders are, leading to the problem of demarcation. There is nonetheless a set 
of core precepts that have broad consensus among published philosophers of 
science and within the scientific community at large.

Science is reasoned-based analysis of sensation upon our awareness. As such, 
the scientific method cannot deduce anything about the realm of reality that is 
beyond what is observable by existing or theoretical means.[14] When a 
manifestation of our reality previously considered supernatural is understood 
in the terms of causes and consequences, it acquires a scientific 
explanation.[15]

Philip. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernie Brauer 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:07 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: RELIGION IN SCIENCE. 


  Philip,

  "Philosophy" seems to be just another word for Religion,
  but kicks-out any Creator God as Designer/First Cause of universe
  or as Moral-Code Giver.


  Phil - osophy could also mean the way of thinking of the
  people named "Phil" in the World.

  Bernie

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