[geocentrism] Plenum and firmament

  • From: "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:51:15 -0500

Gary -- I've not read your links yet, but I will.  Being a woman, my brain
doesn't work like the rest of yours.  I don't get the engineering, math and
physics stuff the way you all seem to so easily grasp it all.  But I have
intuition, a sense of where to look for the truth, an intuitive sense of
what it is when I recognize it.  I am also logical.  We all need logic and
humility, a willingness to accept the truth once we find it.  I do have some
biases/presuppositions -- I believe in God and I believe God is Good, and I
believe His Word is contained in the KJV only as Scripture.

Other than that, I will consider anything as possible as long as it lines up
with the other three suppositions/biases I have.

Have you read any of Gordon Bane's stuff,  The Geocentric Bible?   He says
all the answers to cosmology are in the scriptures.  He believes every
scripture has a mate, that there's another scripture located somewhere
between the two covers that explains and fulfils any other scripture.

He speaks continuously of the plenum and the firmament.  It is true, is it
not, that the Copernican people don't believe in either one of these
concepts?  Is it not true also that a proper understanding of both of these,
plenum and firmament, will answer all the other questions?

Is there agreement in this list/group as to what exactly the plenum and the
firmament is?  If so, could you explain it to me kind of the way you did the
geocentric model?

Cheryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Shelton" <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?


> Cheryl,
>
> I have provided the following link before.  But it is a very good link to
a
> heated discussion between Gary Hoge and Robert Sungenis.  Mr. Hoge firmly
> believes that the geo satellites (synchronous and stationary and polar)
> solidly prove the earth is turning.  Mr. Sungenis denies that.
>
> You'd have to give Mr. Hoge the prize for this particular debate, but I
> don't think it's by any means the end of the debate.
>
> That link is:
> http://catholicoutlook.com/gps1.php
>
> Read and learn all of this and you'll be very knowledgeable indeed.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gary Shelton
>
> Gary Shelton
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:41 AM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon landings?
>
>
> > Philip -- If I need to do more homework, just say so.  I don't want you
> all
> > to have to spoonfeed me everything.  I sure do appreciate all you're
> > teaching me, pulling me up to speed really fast.  Hopefully when you're
> > through filling me in, I can have something good to contribute in
return.
> >
> > Thanks again.   Cheryl
>
>
>
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