Robert said.. This is another potential GS proof: An Earth flyby will not cause any speed change, since the Earth has no kinetic energy to transfer! [Is anyone keeping track of all these?] Robert yes, I remember the previous discussions. They were not actually resolved.. But yours above could finalise it. If the earth was orbiting the sun, then a space probe launch into deep space from earth could presumably take advantage of this velocity by chosing the time of the year to give a tangental to the orbit launch in the direction of the earths orbital motion. They never mention this like they do the rotational advantage they use for satellites. Can we take advantage of this to prove GS? Radar/radio can determine the speed/distance of the missile. If the earth was stationary, then the time delay for signals between earth and the missile would be identical throughout the year give or take the extra time calculated for the missiles progress speed. . However if the world was indeed orbiting the sun, then signal time for the outgoing signal and the response would be many minutes (180 million miles worth) shorter during that time of the year when the world was on the probes side of the sun, than what it would be 6 months later. Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? If we could obtain the records of the real time transmissions over a full year of data recovery, (these are usually obtained by sending out a command, and waiting for the reply) we'd have a good case for or against. It does not matter what the sun is doing for this analysis . Philip.. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bennett To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnet experiment There will be no gain of energy from the flyby.. If the source magnet is fixed. Thus I was wondering just how energy can be taken by a satellite in the socalled slingshot flyby of Jupiter to propell it further from the Sun... That gravity and magnetism are different forces should not alter the basic premise that energy gained by a fall is recovered during the climb... or visa versa.. Didn't we discuss this before? The space probe flyby borrows energy from Jupiter's motions, so the probe speeds up while father Zeus slows down (infinitesimally). The Jupiter-probe system conserves energy. Philip. This is another potential GS proof: An Earth flyby will not cause any speed change, since the Earth has no kinetic energy to transfer! [Is anyone keeping track of all these?] Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 27/04/2007 1:39 PM