I missed that article. Here are some other interesting stuff from Karanev's book: 1) universal expansion cannot be determined from redshift 2) universal background radiation is explained by other things than the big bang 3) If things like black holes were true, they would come in different colors. IE the larger or denser the black hole the more photons it would trap. There is no certain amount of gravity that if crossed, suddenly all photons are trapped while if under that threshhold all photons escape. Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Did you guys read last weeks New Scientist article "death of the beginning" I think it was??The discussion was of the failure of the big bang model based on among other things the background radiation map?...Now the interesting thing about it was the observation that bands in the background radiation seem to indicate a "Preferred direction" one explanation was mentioned as being the rotation of the universe?..the real point however, is that it was mentioned only once, thereafter it was referred to simply as the "AXIS OF EVIL"??It brought this to my mind??. Isaiah 5:20. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21. Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Correct. I'm just reporting the interesting things from his book. "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is exactly what the Michelson-Morley experiment set out to show - and what it did show - no motion of the World. This was "unthinkable" to the naturalist mindset of the day and the ideas of One Stone had to be taken out of the dustbin where they had rightly been consigned in order to "explain" away this trifling inconvenience. Neville. j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Also on this topic. Since Kanarev proposes that space is fixed and that the speed of light is fixed to space and that the wavelength of light recieved depends on the speed of the sender and reciever - then it should be theoretically possible to build a device that could measure the absolute speed & direction of the devices' frame of reference. IE if the device were used on the surface of the earth, it could be used to determine the absolute speed of that location and prove or disprove geocentrism scientifically. He does mention the Michael-Morley experiment, but only to point out that the expected measurement was actually several orders of magnitude greater than should have been expected and was well beyond the acuracy of the machine they used. JA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page