Allen, That's very good, thanks. But also this link doesnt work: http://fetcher.fw-notify.net/00000006031244324768/114.pdf Bernie allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Thanks for this. It is, of course, complete nonsense. What, for example do you think of the fact that the local inertial frame (EARTH) in the absence of rotating masses (THAT IS THE ISSUE AT HAND ...no rotating masses???? the Universe is the rotating mass!) aligns with the CMB? Cosmic background radiation...... What does he think about the fact that there is no observable secondary rotation in the "local reference frame" around the annual axis and yet there is on the "local reference frame" on the daily axis.....nonsense is not a thought that is a feeling, i want a logical explination.....or the fact that the distribution of all observable mass is organized on shells concentric to the "local inertial frame"..LOL....? What, for example does he think about the fact that no one has proven that there is such a thing as a "local reference frame" that is independent from any other "local reference frame".......Envoking a theory to validate that theories own conclusions is called circular fallacy........UMMM CMB/Geocentricity issue is also covered in #114 pg131 BA http://fetcher.fw-notify.net/00000006031244324768/114.pdf What does he think about the fact that there is no observable secondary rotaion in the "local reference frame" around the annual axis and yet there is on the nightly "local reference frame" axis..or the fact that the disrstubution of all observable mass is organised on shells concentric to the "local inertial frame"..LOL....? or how about the fact that no one has proven that there is such a thing as the "local reference frame that is independent of any other "local reference frame"..in vokeing a theory to vlaidte the theroy one is trying to invoke is called circular falicy........ ----- Original Message ---- From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 1:58:14 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving-Earth Deception Forwarded to Geocentric by Bernie "@evolutionpages.com> wrote: Thanks for this. It is, of course, complete nonsense. What, for example do you think of the fact that the local inertial frame in the absence of rotating masses aligns with the CMB? Alec ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Brauer To: @evolutionpages.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Moving-Earth Deception Proof of Geocentric Correctness --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos.